Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chief Namakagon


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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 01:26, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Chief Namakagon

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Not based on WP:RS, website for book states it mixes fact and fiction, other information indicates Tanner died in 1846 and was positively ID'ed, book by itself is not sufficiently notable. GregJackP  Boomer!   09:26, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep The subject is notable as there's more than one book about him. For example, see Chief Namakagon and The Legend of Silver in Northern Wisconsin. Andrew D. (talk) 15:50, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. That book is a self-published vanity press book. According to WorldCat, the book is held by exactly zero libraries worldwide, has no ISBN, and the author has only been self-published for all three of her books. Second, the author of the article has a WP:COI, admitted here. This will help the sales of his novels, which, as noted above, are fiction, not history. Third, there are no sources, other than the aforementioned COI editor, who has linked Namakagon with Tanner. All other sources on Tanner show that he died in 1846. To publish this as a hidden alias would be fine, were there sources (see, e.g., Billy the Kid and Brushy Bill Roberts). Here there are none. Finally, as shown in the COI link, this is WP:OR, research of the editor that has not been published elsewhere, besides his self-published series of novels on the issue. GregJackP   Boomer!   17:31, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Basically the article is for a fictional character in a series of self-published books. The character is based on some vague historical facts, but it remains a fiction, and a self-published one at that. Note that info about the book has been inserted by the same editor in the article for the lake of the same name, Lake Namakagon. This should be removed (which I will do now) since the article for the lake should not be used as an advertisement for an insignificant book. LaMona (talk) 19:21, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: I nom'd the article (using the incorrect template; sorry) before User:GregJackP. Concerned that the cited Ashland newspaper source was prob. a parody, but ironic intent may be hard to detect more than 150 years later. Namakagon was not a personal name; it appears to come from the Ojibwa for "lake rich with sturgeons" (see: Lake Namakagon). Even if a local "chief" legend were to prove notable, better sourcing and complete rewrite would be needed, without extraordinary claims about John Tanner (captive). — ℜ ob C.  alias ALAROB 20:28, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:00, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:00, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


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