Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chief Red Bird


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy userfied by user/other. – Rich Farmbrough, 07:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC). 07:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Chief Red Bird
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Delete. This person, if he even existed, is not notable. The list of references seems disingenuous. Emmet Starr's History of the Cherokee Indians is listed as a reference but it does not mention this individual at all. Article states this person signed the Treaty of Holston; however, every signer of the treaty is listed here: "Treaty of Holston, 1791,". His name in its various forms is not present. -Uyvsdi (talk) 17:36, 2 October 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi
 * Delete-A combination of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH, with references listed as family geneology sites. Even if reliable secondary sources could be found for this persons existence, it doesn't seem like they would pass WP:Notable.  He  iro  18:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment-The original author has removed much but not all of the OR and self published sources, and is now looking for reliable secondary sources. They have found several mentions of the person, in primary sources in archived letters from the time period, but I fear notability will not be established, especially before this AfD runs its course.  He  iro  02:10, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nominator. Edward321 (talk) 15:39, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Heiro also, correctly, shows that the subject's notability is questionable at best. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 13:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails the most basic rule of verifiability. Much of this article must be conjecture or original research. Bearian (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


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