Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chikako Watanabe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete; the related articles are not formally listed, so they'll need to be addressed separately. Mojo Hand (talk) 22:03, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Chikako Watanabe

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This is an interesting case, if for meta reasons. This article hit a number of Wikipedia's high traffic recently, yet on the surface it looks like a failure of notability. All references are self-refs, there is no linked ja Wiki article... so why is that article so popular? Google does not show anything but some blogs other unreliable sources, so I smell something fishy here - self-promotion and some weird attempt to manipulate Wikipedia traffic. If I am right, contributions of creator may warrant a closer investigation (Shigeo Tamaru, NaNa (band) and some other music-themed articles. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  07:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment a redirect to NaNa (band) is probably justified: NaNa have had 2 albums on Warners and therefore meet WP:NMUSIC . Shigeo Tamaru, the other member of NaNa will probably deserve the same treatment. Members even of successful bands aren't automatically notable. But if the articles are correct, the band have had one album on Warners and one on For Life Music, which appears to meet WP:NMUSIC. I'd like some more reliable sources though. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:09, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:10, 27 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Just a note that the band seems to be largely unknown in Japan. Oricon shows that they have never charted, and I can find no independent significant RS on them or on Watanabe in Japanese. Their Warner's page is about it . That's probably why there is nothing on them in the JP Wikipedia. They do seem to possibly satisfy criterion 5 on WP:NMUSIC, but not any of the other criteria, at least for Japan. Michitaro (talk) 17:54, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:19, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Dubious independent notability. Not seeing sufficient third-party sourcing to justify a self-standing biographical article like this. --DAJF (talk) 23:30, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Looking for English sources also comes up with little. I increasingly believe even the band article is of dubious notability. Michitaro (talk) 15:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete All articles related to NaNa (band). buffbills7701 20:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.