Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chikujou


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Japanese castle. A definite measure of agreement to redirect now that the content has been merged. WilliamH (talk) 00:41, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Chikujou

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Unsourced non notable martial arts related dictionary definition, which does not justify a self-standing article, as per WP:NOTDIC Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 01:24, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 10:20, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete:I concur, no evidence of this as a notable activity/practice after web search. Suggest fails WP:GNG. Babakathy (talk) 09:00, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Tentative keep changed !vote; see below I'd urge caution on this. A science of fortification definitely existed in feudal Japan, and there's scope for an article on it. The term "chikujo-jutsu" or "chikujo-soshiki" were used (cf. Draeger and Smith) to refer to it, although I'm struggling to find extensive exposition of the topic in English under that title. It may also be worth searching for sources in Japanese, per WP:NONENG; sadly my command of the language is insufficient to do so. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 09:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The book by Draeger and Smith has a dictionary type reference to a word spelled as "chikujo-jutsu (technique of fortification)" thats it, no other information, it may be a real term but does that make it notable or noteworthy?  How can you make a stand alone article on a term and its definition, this term maybe could be included in an article about martial arts terms but it does not stand the test as article material by itself. Here is a link to the book by Draeger Comprehensive Asian fighting arts‎, Donn F. Draeger, Robert W. Smith - 1980
 * I was thinking we might be able to write a decent article on Japanese castle fortification, but on reflection, there really doesn't seem to be much more than passing mentions knocking about that use this particular term. A better option might be a Merge with redirect to Japanese castle. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:26, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've now done the merge, such as it was (one sentence and two refs), so Delete and redirect to Japanese castle. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 11:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Yunshui, good compromise, I think that a few of these type of martial arts terms could find a place in already existing articles. Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 12:18, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Japanese castle The content has already been moved, so a redirect seems reasonable. Papaursa (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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