Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/China's University and College Admission System


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The result was   delete. v/r - TP 15:57, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

China's University and College Admission System

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At least two editors have searched for enough sources for the article to pass WP:GNG, but to no avail. We hope that this AfD will prompt others, especially those at the organization, to provide adequate third-party references. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:03, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment AfD is really not the place to look for help on article improvement. Would it not make more sense to withdraw this AfD and take it to Wikiproject China, or list at Category:Articles needing attention? Yunshui (talk) 07:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This isn't really about improving it. It's about deleting it - hence the name. I thought one of the purposes of AfD is to nominate articles for which adequate sources cannot be found, in the hope that it is either deleted, or saved after others find sources to support it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:44, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I misunderstood. My bad, sorry. Yunshui (talk) 07:49, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I've just had a rather baffling experience. I've tried to establish notability by finding references to CUCAS on the websites of Chinese universities listed on http://www.cucas.edu.cn . My initial small sample consisted of Beijing Normal, Hainan and Southeast Universities. They all provided their own application forms and systems for international students, made no mention of CUCAS and did not link to that site. I then tried searching for sites that link to CUCAS (link:www.cucas.edu.cn -cucas.edu.cn) but found very few Chinese universities. However I did find a prominent link from the China Education and Research Network at http://www.edu.cn/english_1369/index.shtml, and I did find their parent company Beijing Chiwest Co., Ltd http://www.chiwest.cn. They haven't been operating for long - though you might say 2008/2009 is an age ago in a rapidly growing economy - so maybe they need time to establish notability. NebY (talk) 11:06, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete fails WP:GNG. Shared marketing programs aren't independently notable, even when they're bilingual. Stuartyeates (talk) 05:46, 26 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Notability not established. Few if any of the universities listed by this company make any suggestion at all to prospective students that they use this company's services. (As a further example, the CUCAS site currently headlines Zhengzhou University, whose website provides full direct contact details for prospective overseas students http://english.zzu.edu.cn/contactus.htm.) This seems to me to be a major failure to achieve notability. Meanwhile, the sources that are provided seem largely to be passing references and to be insufficient for the primary criteria for notability of organisations given at WP:CORPDEPTH. NebY (talk) 10:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
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