Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/China Business Network Weekly


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedily Deleted by Jimfbleak. There were this AfD and a speedy delete tag at the same time for some reason. The name is blue due to a redirect added after the speedy delete. (non-admin closure) Mr. Magoo (talk) 18:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

China Business Network Weekly

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This is not a very notable weekly. Prof TPMS (talk) 00:17, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  00:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Redirect China Business Network didn't seem to have any kind of article but the other mentioned Shanghai Media Group does. According to these 1 and 2, China Business Network is just some sort of a closely-managed daughter company of SMG for the operation of business news. After limiting my search to the Weekly, I were only able to find mentions of people working for the Weekly: 3 and 4; not much else. Both a mention of CBN as well as of CBNW could be added to the SMG article. But since the original article text is unsourced and untraceable, it's useless and delete-worthy. In all of these matters an understanding of the native language would probably help the most... --Mr. Magoo (talk) 01:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you dear Mr. Magoo. Redirect looks the best available option.  Regards, --Prof TPMS (talk) 01:55, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Additional Comment I noticed that CBN was in fact listed at SMG as a red link. I looked more into CBN instead of Weekly and discovered that CBN is somewhat notable. Numerous Western business journals reported on Alibaba Group purchasing 30% of CBN's stock. However in that article there was also a mention of "China Business News Paper", which really confused me. I guess Weekly really is a "magazine" and CBN Paper a classic newspaper. But continuing on, other than from the Alibaba stock purchase, I weren't able to find articles about CBN. I found some crediting random news stories to CBN. Before this I were beginning to think CBN might be worth its own article but after I couldn't find any more I gave up on that and instead I added a big bit with all the Alibaba sources to SMG. The introduction about CBN ties in nicely with the Alibaba stock purchase. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 02:48, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear Mr. Magoo, You are very good in investigating things especially in places like China where it is a little bit tough. Taking into account the language barrier, we can withdraw the deletion tag and let it continue with a "No References" maintenance tag. Regards, Prof TPMS (talk) 03:19, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Prof TPMS, I think you may have thought I were pro keeping this article. The strongest reason I'm for redirecting to Shanghai Media Group is that this article's not about China Business Network but CBN Weekly. We don't even have an article about CBN yet. CBN might be worth an article, but the easiest action was to simply add a short note about CBN to Shanghai Media Group. I now even made a redirect for China Business Network. So, I do think the CB Network might be worth its own article but its crime is that I weren't able to find other articles about it specifically other than from June 2015 concerning Alibaba stock purchase. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 12:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Other reason I'm a bit wary of a CBN article is that there apparently exist two other entitites with the same English name: China BN - China Business Network and "PWC's" China Business Network. The reason behind this likely is that the original SMG's China Business News is named that in Chinese and its name is easily translated as China Business News, but since it hasn't really pushed for the English market it hasn't yet monopolized the name. Now in my searches I were able to find this article as well: Global Business News. It's a CBN TV program. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 12:44, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete is the only option available. Mr. Magoo, you can go for it. Regards, Prof TPMS (talk) 12:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect and delete are two different votes. People participating in this discussion also can't close it. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 12:44, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well it seems like it had a speedy delete tag and it was speedily deleted. At this point even involved can close... However I can add the redirect afterwards so the name might show up as blue again. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 18:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)