Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/China flu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, with no prejudice (no pun intended) against re-creation if encyclopedic coverage of the use of "China flu" to refer to the topics is added to the encyclopedia. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

China flu

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Promotion of racism, xenophobia and stereotype. This is at most a neologism that is not even widely used PenulisHantu (talk) 21:07, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:23, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:23, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Discrimination-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of COVID-19-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Chinese virus. One disambiguation that legitimises racism is bad enough, there is absolutely no need for two covering what is essentially the exact same area. Devonian Wombat (talk) 23:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: problem with merging with Chinese virus is that not all of the entries on China flu could be merged to Chinese virus because they aren't called that. For example, Asian flu, which originated in China, isn't called China virus. Wikipedia exists to get people to the page they're looking for, not to be politically correct. buidhe 08:08, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "China flu" in the 2013 influenza season: 1968 China flu: 1957 China flu (not RS) 1830 China flu It's not a huge amount, but enough to keep the page in my opinion. buidhe</b> 08:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Disagree. Flu season in China or influenza in China is not "China flu". If the objective is to get people to the relevant subject, why is it not "2013 flu season in China"? Plain inaccuracy politically correct or not.PenulisHantu (talk) 14:22, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * All of these "China flu" refer to strains of influenza virus that originated in China and spread elsewhere. <b style="color: White">b</b><b style="color: White">uidh</b><b style="color: White">e</b> 20:16, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: was China flu actually used for all these things? I search for Google with pre-2020 results does not yield many results. Note that results like China's flu vaccine supply or China's flu season in 2017-2018 have nothing to do with this. --MarioGom (talk) 08:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Sensible disambiguation. See WP:NOTCENSORED. Tessaracter (talk) 13:44, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NOTCENSORED does not mean posting inaccurate, unsourced and terms not used widely.98.169.21.235 (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. None of the articles mention "China flu" and to suggest that the topics are otherwise known as "China flu" is WP:OR and is violates the WP:DAB guidelines about what disambiguation pages are for. This is a very long way from "sensible disambiguation". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep a fully legitimate arternate term. Wikipedia is notan adjunct to the CCP and we do not bow to their demands for language change.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Shhhnotsoloud. None of these are valid entries according to DAB guidelines and the phrase "china flu" appears in zero articles on Wikipedia.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 16:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - "China flu" generates ~ 100,000 results in google.  bloomberg, nytimes and other acknowledges widespread use of the term.Grmike (talk) 11:12, 28 April 2020 (UTC)grmike
 * And if someone decides that use is notable enough to actually add it to a covid-19 article, then that could be a potential redirect target. It still doesn't validate this DAB page.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 15:46, 29 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:V. The phrase does not appear anywhere on WP, much less in the articles linked from the page. Station1 (talk) 20:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Chinese virus and Chinese flu can be two different things. 'Chinese flu' has also been coined by members of the current US administration.  also called 'kung flu' not 'kung virus'.  Grmike (talk) 11:08, 28 April 2020 (UTC)grmike
 * Delete Unnecessary disambiguation, per the guidance of WP:DABNOT. None of the pages are actually named China flu, or have easily conflated titles. Sure the subjects could be conflated, but then thats a case for an article discussing the history of flu pandemics, which already exists at Influenza pandemic. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 11:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Coronavirus disease 2019. It's a plausible redirect but we don't need a disambiguation page for other viruses, flus or diseases which have originated in China.  It's a term which as attracted a lot of attention, particularly in the U.S. e.g. [realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/20/coronavirus_is_the_chinese_governments_curse_upon_the_world_142721.html this] and this.  The disambiguation risks being a magnet for POV editing but equally we can't ignore the fact that many people, whether you like it or not, refer to COVID-19 as such, and that the term has attracted media coverage.  Therefore, a redirect is the best bet.    SITH   (talk)   11:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you explain the realclearpolitics link? It doesn't seem to include any of the phrases we're discussing.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Strong Delete Main reason 'racism" It does not have any valid sources and no article on Wikipedia for it. Covideditnerd (talk) 23:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC) — Covideditnerd (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep This term has been used enough times before politicization in recent times. See no policy based reason to delete this disambiguation. Accesscrawl (talk) 17:30, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy (talk) 01:53, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete isn't a recognized term for covid or the any other viruses. Epluribusunumyall (talk) 02:15, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Article is just a list of diseases at best.TH1980 (talk) 02:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.