Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinese propaganda

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Chinese propaganda
Attempt to create a forum. I see nothing wrong with the topic, but there's no useful content. MikeJ9919 05:15, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete (useful topic, but no useful content) and bill those responsible for the cost of the bullet. &mdash; Phil Welch 05:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep the newly-fixed article. &mdash; Phil Welch 04:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a soapbox and of course Wikipedia is not a general knowledge base. An article with this title could be appropriate but this isn't it.  Tobycat 06:32, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Let's wait a few days before deleting. It's an appropriate topic that is waiting to be expanded.  A poor expansion will change my vote to a delete. Wherewaldo 08:13, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but expand. I think it's worthy of attention. Linuxbeak | Desk 12:18, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. As it is now it's rubbish. Eixo 15:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Valid topic. Page needs attention, not deletion. Provided external links have info for a good stub. Not to say that some googling gives enorous amounts of relevant studies. mikka (t) 16:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete is not expanded. Karol 16:58, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

OK. I started expansion, just to show the road to go, rather than the suspected intention of the initial author to start bickering on modern political topics. Also, the article title must me changed, to reflect the fact that we are speaking about PRC here. How about Propaganda in People's Republic of China? mikka (t) 17:58, 28 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's getting there, and it's certainly an ecyclopaedic topic.  Frjwoolley 19:51, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but it needs cleanup, expansion, and a new title--Sophitus 19:54, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Mikkalai's rewrite, but rename it. RickK 22:42, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, cleanup and expand. Encyclopaedic topic. Megan1967 04:09, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to propaganda in China. Radiant_* 10:43, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Which of the today Chinas? mikka (t) 16:58, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Kaibabsquirrel 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Mikkalai's rewrite. JamesBurns 11:25, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Spoiling the well through the choice of the title. Would the keep voters vote to keep a page entitled "U.S. propaganda?" WebLuis 13:12, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or rename/rewrite The article has not convinced me that the word "propaganda" is NPOV. Shoaler 12:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The word "propaganda" is a purely technical term in communist countries. It is a fact, not a POV. If you are not convinced in facts spelt for you, then you have problems, not article. mikka (t) 17:32, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think it's definitely going to need a lot more work, but I also think the subject itself is easily notable enough to merit an article precisely because propaganda is such a major part of daily life in China. If it eventually ends up being merged with something else or renamed ("Propaganda in the People's Republic of China", as suggested by Mikkalai above, would be an improvement), I don't have a problem with that. Point is, I certainly wouldn't delete it now. -- Captain Disdain 23:37, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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