Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chioma Nnani


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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions do not address Wikicology's thorough analysis of sources.  Sandstein  12:37, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Chioma Nnani

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Subject of the article fails WP:GNG. I can't find any evidence of notability. The sources provided are unreliable and majority of the sources are self-published material about the so-called novel Forever There For You she authored. I also find one or two interview with local website with no credible editorial control or oversight. To be honest, Wikipedia is not a place for everybody that publish one or more books. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 13:29, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Wikic¤l¤gy Do Not Delete as Chioma Nnani is not only an established writer but also an award winning author. She has also been nominated twice (2014 and 2015) for BEFFTA Awards. Her story has also been published by the University of Kent in the UK. A little Googling will show some hits and prove to you as evidence of her notability. You can also see these [], [], [], [], [], [], [], [], [], [], [], [], []. Please, kindly withdraw your nomination. Thanks. Lord Ru 10:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Having got a nomination for BEFTA award is not enough to get a stand-alone article on Wikipedia. People don't get freebie page on Wikipedia because they are nominated for one or two awards. A person is likely to merit a page here if they are nominated for notable awards such as BEFTA, Grammy and AMAA awards multiple times. The sources you provided here cannot establish WP:notability. Ref 1 is a primary source, ref 2 is a self-published material, ref 3 is a wordpress and not a reliable source, ref 4 is a primary source that describe the international students in which she is one. Ref 5 is about the 7th BEFTA awards 2015 nomination which only provided an evidence that she was nominated for the award and same with ref 6. Ref 7 looks like a self-published material and the source is questionably unreliable. Ref 8 "Konnect Africa" is not in anyway close to a reliable source. Ref 9 is an interview about a book she author. Ref 10 is another interview by a local website which do not fall in any category of reliable sources per WP:RS. Ref 11 is a local magazine with no good editorial oversight. In fact, I can't even verify if they have staffs. Ref 12 looks promising and ref 13 "Reconnect Africa" is not in anyway close to reliable sources. The award she won in porthacourt is a local and non-notable award. Thus, this seem like WP:TOOSOON to me. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 05:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete including as WP:TNT as all of this would simply be best restarted as there's nothing to suggest current notability, improvement and acceptability. SwisterTwister   talk  07:47, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep A little research shows that this article is over a year old on Wikipedia and have been patrolled by many admins, so why delete now? Those admins that found it worthy after patrolling it, did thy err in allowing it? Or they no longer know Wikipedia notability rules? And again with the references concerning the article I Googled, I think the article is ok and should be kept. If this article doesn't meet notability, it means that so many articles on Wikipedia in their thousands shouldn't have been kept. Mavin7 01:05, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * How is this a policy based argument? Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 15:31, 13 January 2016 (UTC)


 * delete I'm just not finding reliable sources on my searches.  This:  is the best I've been able to find.  The hits I'm finding are blogs and websites, not edited publications.  Flag me to take another look if someone finds reliable sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment E.M.Gregory This: is not the only reliable source. Maybe you didn't see these too: [], [], [].  Lord Ru 02:14, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, User:Lord Ru I am not confident about the reliability of "All Africa" (because I could not readily verify it) although this article:    does appear to be an echo of an article that appeared in  Media Trust which I take to be an actual, edited newspaper.  This, an opinion column, is also from in Media Trust.  The problem with the other sources is that, for example, the university's website is reliable, but not useful as a measure of notability since it is not independent.  Amazon.com is not usable, it's just a bookstore.  What are needed are actual, edited publications.  Or material on the website of reliable institutions that are independent of her (i.e., a university that she did not attend and where she does not  teach ).  The sourcing at this point is extremely slender.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

E.M.Gregory, actually "All Africa" is a rated news website with editorial oversight. It's rated 271 in Nigeria and 11, 766 globally by Alexa. That says a lot. For the university website, I understand your point, but I don't think we expect a school Chioma Nnani didn't attend to publish her story. Reason being that, they can't leave their former students and be talking about someone else. For the fact that her alma mater in the UK found her story worthy and published it, is evidence of her notability, after all, not all former students get their stories published by their alma mater. Otherwise, the school website might crash due to numerous publication of stories. In my opinion, I don't see anything wrong with Chioma Nnani's page. Thank you. Lord Ru 04:27, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You might want to read WP:GNG, and look at some other deletion discussions. When a person is notable, you often find that they give lectures at a university, or that writers go somewhere for a semester as a visiting scholar - and that gets written up.  When a university writes up the accomplishments of its own graduates, we do not regard that as counting towards notability at Wikipedia.  What is really needed here are reviews of her books, articles about her career, discussions of her writing in multiple magazines and newspapers.  Often, with a young novelist, it is WP:TOOSOON for there to be a Wikipedia article, and that looks to be the case here. E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - not enough in-depth coverage from reliable, independent sources to establish they pass WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:13, 15 January 2016 (UTC)


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