Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Choi Jong-hoon


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Choi Jong-hoon

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Non-notable band member of a K-pop group: it's the typical K-pop fancruft, where everything is blown up toward notability. The claim, by someone who gets a kick out of insulting people, is that he passes NACTOR because he's a star in some TV show--but all they can produce is an announcement from 2014, on a Korean entertainment portal, that this will happen in the fall of 2014. Since then, who knows. The rest of the person's acting career consists of cameos and appearances in programs about the band he's in. Do not be misled by "cast member" in Real Life Men and Women--it's just another variety show.

Now, if you start Googling him you'll find some hits, because he just quit the business after having been found--allegedly--sharing sex videos illicitly. In other words, the only thing this person could possibly be notable for is a BLP1 event. We need to restore the redirect. Drmies (talk) 00:28, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:53, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete as per the precise evaluation by the nom. The only thing he seems notable for is a BLP violation. Onel 5969  TT me 12:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep He is also an actor, he did leading roles in the notable multiple television series, such as Prince's Prince (2015), Heroes (2015), 88 Street (2016), and Unexpected Heroes (2017) satisfies WP:NACTOR #1 and WP:GNG. And i found his acting role sources and coverages in some Korean reliable media , . If you can't read Korean texts? please use Google web translation tool. Thanks MyanmarBBQ (talk) 14:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * MyanmarBBQ, those last two articles say nothing at all: it's just celebrity news, with two or three sentences confirming that he plays this or that part. And if these two sources are so reliable, please indicate (in English) what these publications are, who is on their editorial board, and what their reputation is. I doubt that you can: they are just news-y entertainment portans that also publish celebrity gossip. These other things you mention are web series--they aren't even properly verified in the article, they are web series that don't have articles and may not even exist for all I know (they may just have been announcements that never panned out). I don't think you know what reliable sources are, or what significant coverage means; the subject does not pass NACTOR. So, in the end, the only properly verified content is the sex scandal. But hey, at least you're not calling me a dog anymore. Drmies (talk) 17:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * According to WP:NACTOR, "had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.": He did ✅. To be clear... Please watch his series on YouTube and you will know he is lead or not!! P.s I'm minor editor and i know nothing some Wikipedia rules...plz don't bully me. BTW... "Shutup Dogs" sentence on my user page are mean not you...Anyway I apologise you with my heart ... Sry dear. MyanmarBBQ (talk) 19:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. I've made some improvements to this article—it needs a lot of work—but he clearly passes WP:NACTOR. Had a supporting role in the film You're My Pet, and lead roles in the TV series Prince's Prince, Heroes, and Unexpected Heroes. A basic Google search show that these dramas did all air. The series don't have articles, but that is not an indication of non-notability, they simply have no been created yet. Trying to find English-language sources for a Korean subject and automatically brushing aside native-language sources is truly narrow systematic bias. ℯ xplicit 03:45, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Explicit, not counting unreliable sources is good application of Wikipedia policy. You should know that something airing doesn't mean it's noteworthy, let alone notable; reliable sources make it noteworthy/notable. The other user is arguing that "it's on YouTube so yeah", which boils down to the same thing. Also, you cite BIAS, I cite AGF. Come on now. Drmies (talk) 03:27, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Explicit, Clearly seen, someone have WP:IDONTLIKEIT Korean. (I really want to delete...cuz its Korean I Don't Like it) lol. MyanmarBBQ (talk) 05:46, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:32, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per xplicit's accurate interpretation of WP:NACTOR. MidwestSalamander (talk) 06:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:PERX. Drmies (talk) 03:27, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I would favor a keep. He was the first leader of FT Island, and for a damn long time, surely being leader of the band also adds notability. Garlicolive (talk) 01:41, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


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