Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chopper (rap)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 01:40, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Chopper (rap)

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The subject is a term, not a subgenre, and all of the sources do not mention a genre called "chopper". Koala15 (talk) 02:46, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  03:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The nomination argument would be true if Rock was not a genre. O, and look, it is a term, too. And it might be true if the sentence, "the festival will feature the guitar- and drumbeat-driven music of Rock" was not implicit evidence of the existence of the Rock genre. However, as can be seen, both of these arguments are basically garbled versions of WP rules. Confused? Consider the sentence, "Tech N9ne goes around the world to find the best “choppers” or wicked fast rappers" So, rappers whose lyrics are "wickedly" fast are Choppers. And it is indeed a genre, as rap songs themselves, as well as reliable sources, all refer to it. Anarchangel (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: I do not agree with Anarchangel's reasoning, which seem to be that any term used to describe music is a genre, but honestly the whole issue of genre here is a red herring. The question here is not whether it is a genre, but whether it is a topic deserving of an encyclopedia article. WP:GNG is what we should be concerned with, not definitions of genre. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 19:50, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Agreed that was another reason why i nominated it, i probably should have mentioned that. Koala15 (talk) 23:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I too think the issue isn't whether it's a genre either. Anyway, if it does stand, there's a credible source with a few references to the "style" here: "20 Of Hip-Hop’s Fastest Rappers" at XXL.com. – Mizery Made  ( talk ·  contribs ) 00:02, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  01:33, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 06:08, 3 August 2014 (UTC)




 * Comment:There is no reason to delete this page. The sources listed may not call it a "sub-genre" but several listed sites on several internet search engines clearly define it as a specific style of rap, known for the speed with which the artist conveys his words. And that alone makes it a sub-genre of rap, which is an extension of hip-hop. It would be like taking a gansta rap....this is the start of "book burning." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.34.183.218 (talk) 19:18, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. Please post links to your sources so we can see if this passes the general notability guideline. And also, please stay civil. Accusing people of book-burning over an AfD nomination is unlikely to sway them to your side, or to convince the closing admin. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 21:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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