Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chorny Kofe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep.  Syn  ergy 07:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Chorny Kofe

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No indication band meets notability guidelines of WP:BAND. Tan     39  05:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * keep, under "has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels". This is a major band with nine professionally released albums from 1986 to 2004, and hundreds of concerts, not some garage band to be policed under WP:BAND. Its notability is, of course, mostly restricted to Russia and the former SU, no notability to the Anglosphere is implied (see also countering systemic bias). The interwiki link to the extensive ru-wiki article is a dead giveaway that this needs to be expanded, not deleted. --dab (𒁳) 06:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I have created Legends of Russian Rock (needs work of course. volunteers?) -- chances are that anything listed there passes WP:BAND easily. --dab (𒁳) 07:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Part (all) of the problem is that the article does not assert this notability. As it reads now, those released albums could be garage-band type EPs, home-burnt CDs, anything. I have nothing against this article and would like to see it remain, but unless we can get some accurate Russian translations going and figure out how to demonstrate notability... Tan      39  13:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * that used to be the case, but I have since added the labels, which is enough to satisfy WP:BAND. Feel free to google the labels yourself next time in the time it would take you to submit an AfD. --dab (𒁳) 21:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Editor is making honest effort and defense. I'd rather err on the side of inclusion in this case. Notability seems to be asserted in current version of article. -- Quartermaster (talk) 18:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Da (as they say in Moscow) Notability in the Russian media is confirmed if one does a Google search using the Cyrillic spelling of the band's name: . It appears the band never played in the English-speaking world, which explains the lack of Anglophonic sources. But they appear to be popular in Russia. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * you have actually just googled "black coffee", which is drunk in Russia, too. More relevant searches would be  :) --dab (𒁳) 13:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. This was one of the mainstays of early Russian rock (aka govnorok). --Ghirla-трёп- 07:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


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