Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Clark (politician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 06:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Chris Clark (politician)

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Non-notable wannabe politician. I'd bet the ranch that this was posted by the candidate himself, given that he graduated from Stanford University in 2005 and the original author's user ID is Cardinal05. (Coincidence? I think not.) Be that as it may, this guy is running for city council in Mountain View, California. That's it. Hasn't even won office yet, and even winning this election would not make him notable. Utterly fails WP:POLITICIAN. Declined speedy - the declining editor said that "Importance does seem to have been shown in this article." Where that importance lies is beyond me. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 14:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - I concur with the above assessment Mrh30 (talk) 14:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. Fails WP:POLITICIAN. Tassedethe (talk) 14:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete also agree the the nom. Failes everything with WP:POLITICIAN and source used is from the person's own site which is not a reliable source. Bidgee (talk) 14:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and above. Not notable yet. Glass  Cobra  15:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Rats All the good delete arguments have been taken already. City council candidates are not notable per se. Reallyhick makes no mention of subject's position as Senior Operations Manager at Loopt . I don't think that conveys sufficient notability either. I can't find 3rd party sources that say it does. The fact that the source is the subject's campaign web page suggests this is promotional in nature. Not sure I see the notability assertion either.Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  15:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess that counts as a delete, huh? :-) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 15:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I'm not sure how notability per WP:BIO is even asserted. One mention of his candidacy found in the local press. Article is a watered-down version of his campaign bio. • Gene93k (talk) 17:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete As per above.  Lady   Galaxy  13:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "Keep until November There are two real news articles from real papers about the race. why not keep it up and let the campaign develop.  City council races are important.  this is a democracy, you know, and having young people run for office is an important thing in the world.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.35.45 (talk) 23:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Coverage from just running for office does not establish notability. The Palo Alto Daily News coverage is trivial, too. Notability cannot be speculative. Even if he wins, local office holders are not automatically notable. • Gene93k (talk) 23:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A cynic could see keeping till November as serving the purpose of providing the candidate with a valuable soapbox. And encouraging callow youth to sully themselves in politics is not Wikipedia's purpose. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  00:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This town/city is about the size of sleepy, li'l old Largo. Council members of such city/towns are not notable. Certainly, being a candidate in such a race does not meet WP:N.  Dloh  cierekim  00:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * City council members in general are not notable. Only those who have been in office for a long time and have had some sort of significant impact on a medium-sized or larger community would possibly qualify as notable. This gentleman would not qualify even if he were elected. BTW, User:Dlohcierekim's comment was hilarious. A cynic might also think that the anon IP editor that placed that comment might be Clark himself, since we are pretty darn certain that Clark wrote this article in the first place. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 00:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Is that really thw wikipedia position? City council members are not notable.  But any idiot with a bit part in a movie is notable?  sheeesh.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.35.45 (talk) 03:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Any idiot with a bit part is not notable. (If you see any such article, let me know. I'll have a look-see and take it form there.) Do read WP:BIO, the guideline for notability for articles about living people. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  14:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * To add to what Dlohcierekim said, you can also take a look at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Actors and actresses and see that there are plenty of bit part actors up for deletion because of lack of notability. -- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  14:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Completely unnecessary pile-on delete per... well... everyone. – Toon (talk)  22:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As the author and subject of the article, I'd like to plead my case and then will welcome whatever decision you make. I obviously feel that local candidates are important. As a young tech worker and avid Wikipedia user, I feel it's important for people in a Silicon Valley city (and the city that's home to Google) to be able to find information about local candidates for office from an online source such as Wikipedia. I'm aware that it's rarely a good idea for someone to post an article about themselves, but I sincerely tried to keep it as unbiased or self-promoting as possible and welcome any edits (positive or negative).  I was actually hoping that by creating the article that others would edit it to remove any perceived bias.  It's rare for someone under 30 to run for an office like city council, and I think that makes this candidacy unique.  I also have reason to believe that there will be press in the next few weeks about this candidacy outside of the Bay Area, so it may be worth keeping for a few more weeks or at least through the election to see how things turn out.  However, I value the judgement of the wikipedia community, and if you still feel this article should be deleted, moved, or otherwise modified, I will certainly accept that.  Thanks for taking the time to review all of this.   –  --Cardinal05 (talk) 04:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You have violated a major principle of Wikipedia — self-promotion. You simply can't do it, period. Moreover, we have already established over time that political candidates who have not yet actually been elected to office are not notable unless they qualify on other grounds, and you do not. Even if you do win, city councilors and their equivalents are not notable enough even when elected. A very few exceptions are made for councilors who have gained considerable fame in a large community due to longevity in office, significant impact on their community, or (often) misconduct in office. So even if you do win your election, you probably still won't be notable enough for an article. Additionally, it is not that unusual for a person aged 30 or younger to run for a city council. As a reporter, I've seen it quite a few times in cities small and large. But let's not kid ourselves here. You wrote an article to promote your own political campaign, pure and simple, and that's about as big a no-no as you can commit around here. So off you go, and please remember to remove all your campaign signs from the streets after the election. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 05:08, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


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