Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Davenport


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Goodvac (talk) 04:56, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Chris Davenport

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Skier of dubious notability (per WP:ATHLETE?). Most of the sources look fishy. Article created by single-purpose account User:YMurakami, possibly indicating a conflict of interest. bender235 (talk) 00:51, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 01:09, 5 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment What is the evidence of "dubious notability"?  wp:notability is not defined by the existence of an article on Wikipedia or the content of any such article such as fishy sources or the possibility of a COI.  Unscintillating (talk) 01:55, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep as professional sportsman, winner of the World Extreme Skiing Championship. Here's a piece from Freeskier on Davenport skiing the Lhotse face of Mt. Everest. Carrite (talk) 01:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:03, 12 November 2011 (UTC)




 * Comment — Could use some rewriting. See maintenance tags. C(u)w(t)C(c) 01:37, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete complete lack of independent sources for the claims. If the claims in the running text are backed by WP:RS, ping me on my talk page and I'll reconsider. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:21, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Wifione  Message 13:30, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - I think that his winning of a major competition makes him notable. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 15:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. I see enough evidence in reliable sources that the subject of the article is a big name in the extreme skiing world. (BTW, I don't understand why COI is suspected.) --Lambiam 22:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep – - Topic is passing WP:GNG, per: ESPN, New York Times and others,, . Northamerica1000 (talk) 04:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Chris Davenport is not just another skiier, he is one of the most notable of the current generation of ski mountaineers in the world. He was interviewed by the New York Times at great length in 2005.  He was the first skiier to ski down all 54 14,000+ foot peaks in the United States in a single year, as described in the Denver Post.  Having climbed just five of those peaks myself, I have a small sense of what that accomplishment entails.  The Vail Daily described him here as one of a "handful of skiers worldwide who climb Mt. Everest and other Himalayan peaks alpine style, without using supplemental oxygen or hiring porters and guides, and then click into their skis on the world's most dangerous slopes."  ESPN reported here on his 2000 foot ski descent of the Lotse Face at 24,000 feet on Mount Everest in early May, 2011, a major accomplishment in both skiing and mountaineering.  I would venture to say that 99.99% of the skiiers in the world have never skiied at 24,000 feet.  The Aspen Times reported here that professional guide Davenport and his team reached the summit of Mount Everest a few weeks later.  I have written a few biographies of mountaineers here.  Though we have no formal mountaineering notability standards here on Wikipedia as yet, I can attest that Chris Davenport is notable in the rarefied and extreme world of ski mountaineering.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  04:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Correction The 54 14,000+ foot peaks he skiied were all in Colorado, while the five I climbed were in California, but my respect for his accomplishments remains.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep (changed due to new sources, see above) but remove the Personal Sponsorships section, which is entirely encyclopedic. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've removed the promotional "Personal sponsorships" section, added references, and edited to remove puffery.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I found it easy to add more references.  His movies alone make him notable.  I wasn't able to quickly find from the ESPN website that Davenport was a color commentator for ESPN, but there are numerious hits there [site:espn.go.com "Chris Davenport" ski -inurl:blog].  Relatedly, IMDB only shows ten films, not twenty.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:57, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
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