Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Floyd (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Speedy Delete recreation of a page deleted after a deletion discussion WP:CSD. Issues arrising previously which led to the deletion were in not addressed. Polargeo (talk) 16:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Chris Floyd
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And back to AfD we go... still looks NN. delete UtherSRG (talk) 08:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- UtherSRG (talk) 08:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Same as before, no real claim to notability and sourcing that all goes back to stuff that Chris Floyd wrote. To me, this article does not look substantially different than the one that was deleted and should be speedily deleted (again). Bonewah (talk) 13:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Caribmon (talk) Is this a political gesture? Because I do think Floyd's history at Science & Spirit - one of the UK's most distinguished and prestigious intellectual magazines at one time - alone merits his status here. I think your decision is a political move - because in fact, the entry was heavily augmented with links when I rewrote it. Note below. Author, Award winning writer (project censored) et al. I don't want to get into a fray about this. I think it's ridiculous that you feel Floyd should be deleted. There are far less notable journalists than him in Wikipedia.


 * Comment – I am always intrigued by those that want to blame a deletion on a hidden agenda instead of looking objectively at the Wikipedia requirements for inclusion. There is no vast conspiracy here (at least that I am aware of) nor is it appropriate to accuse the editors of being involved in one.  I suggest you read WP:AGF and recognize this is a community of volunteers and that making unfounded accusations serves no purpose except perhaps to cheapen the credibility of your inclusion arguments.   ttonyb  (talk) 14:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Caribmon (talk) 05:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC) This entry was completely rewritten and resubmitted after deletion to meet standards of Wikipedia.

Over 30 links to articles written with some of the world's top scientists and intellectuals that Floyd interviewed and more. Not deserving to be deleted! Why are you deleting this?

Can it not be discussed. Don't you think the former editor of Oxford University's Science & Spirit Magazine qualifies to be in Wikipedia?

Aside from the sources all being linked in this new entry it, it is different and has been quantified with research.

Editors - please check http://news.google.com/archivesearch?scoring=a&q=Chris+Floyd&spell=1 for Google News Archives
 * The majority of articles are either not about him or are written by him. How does this meet the requirements of WP:BIO or WP:GNG?   ttonyb  (talk) 06:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Note his articles in Salon, Counterpunch, Moscow Times et al.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caribmon (talk • contribs) 06:14, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * How does having an article published in those magazines meet the criteria in WP:BIO or WP:GNG?  ttonyb (talk) 06:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Caribmon (talk)He was the editor of Science and Spirit - not 'just' a writer. So I would say yes. It does.

Caribmon (talk) Note he also won a coveted Project Censored Award in 2004

Caribmon (talk) The ref links are all new - aside from the old ones which were deleted. As that seemed to be the major reason last time someone wanted to delete it. Floyd also was also published in book form - which has sold quite well - there are many new and used ones being sold and resold. Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.com

Caribmon (talk) Other new ref links include the fact that his blog is popular according to compete.com and is syndicated by Google News Google News Source

Caribmon (talk) Note this is all new and augmented with links - that were hard to find - but out there. To me this does meet the standards. Yes. That is quite a list of intellectuals to have, as editor, interviewed, mused and shared time with.

From 1998 to 2000, Floyd was the editor of Science & Spirit, an Oxford-based quarterly journal dealing with the contentious relationship between religion and science. His work there included interviews with such prominent thinkers as Richard Dawkins, Owen Gingerich , Daniel Dennett , Steven Pinker , Frans de Waal , V.S. Ramachandran , Freeman Dyson , Paul Davies, Lisa Jardine, A.N. Wilson, Susan Greenfield and John Polkinghorne.

Caribmon (talk) He is also a regular guest on the Scott Horton Radio Show link to antiwar.com


 * Speedy Delete – as recreated material that is essentially the same as before.  ttonyb  (talk)
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