Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Furrh


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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn thanks to RebeccaGreen's help with newspaper sources. (non-admin closure) Jovanmilic97 (talk) 13:18, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Chris Furrh

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Fails multiple things: WP:GNG for lack of secondary source coverage (in WP:BEFORE search nothing came up), WP:ENT says had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions, but is not met as he has only one prominent role whereas multiple is needed and WP:ANYBIO says The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times, he was only nominated for one and not several times. Tagged for verification issues for 8 years now. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 14:14, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep had starring role in notable film Lord of the Flies (1990 film) and was nominated for a notable award, will source search later, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 16:21, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Did you just disregard the guidelines I have cited though? Both of the things you mentioned still violate both WP:NACTOR and WP:BIO. Regards, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as this was a child star in a time prior to the internet the likely hood that there are internet references other than film listings are very remote, even if the film is notable. A improvement notice should be put on not removal to allow for this to be kept. It is especially an interesting story considering his later escapades which have not been added.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 13:18, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment 2 problems with what you said: 1) WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES is not a valid thing on AfD. 2) He *still* fails WP:NACTOR. One role, no matter how notable cannot make him notable by itself alone, otherwise you are denying the Wikipedia guidelines. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 14:02, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:NACTOR says roles in notable films - Lord of the Flies and a Family for Joe are on Wikipoedia as notable, while Exile is on Wikipedia for deletion as their is no references - looking on web there is very little from IDMb probably due to it's age - but it was part of Walt Disney's Wonderful World series which is notable here. He is also already noted in Wikipedia page 12th Youth in Film Awards. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 15:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Well WP:NACTOR says *significant* roles in notable films whereas Family for Joe one was not a significant role (he is not even credited for it on its wiki page). Also wanted to say you are right about  WP:BURO, and thanks for clarifying things around! Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:31, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment having a quick search on Google the character he played was substantial but only in the original telefilm, and when the programme was changed to a series another actor played the part. The Wikipedia page is mainly about the programme. The imdb page linked to the TV series. If you look at the film page you will see Chris furry is on the front cover of the video.2A02:C7D:C5F6:2700:2046:EFB9:29E1:7DC0
 * CommentI did put a ref from the British Film Institute page which Chris Furrh is listed as second billing behind Robert Mitchum who plays the aforementioned Joe. I also looked on IMDb and yes there is two pages - the film one does clearly have Chris Furrh's picture on the front cover.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 08:20, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:C5F6:2700:2046:EFB9:29E1:7DC0 (talk) 07:08, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * CommentJovanmilic97 this is not a slur towards you but different interpretations from what are not rules but guidelines WP:BURO. Remember what Jimmy Wales said when he co-created Wikipedia Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 08:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep There was enough coverage in newspapers of the time to meet WP:GNG: Philadelphia Daily News, 16 March 1990, (Jack (Chris Furrh), leader of the primitives, is the only character effectively sketched in this movie. He convincingly intimidates and charms the other boys in the group ...); The Baltimore Sun, two page spread on Lord of the Flies with an interview with the two lead boys, Getty and Furrh, and the comment "the boys are all good actors, particularly the leads ..."; the Tampa Bay Times said Getty's performance was "no match for Chris Furrh, the intense, though too-puny, Jack" ; though not all coverage was positive - the Calgary Herald had "echoing his pale performance is Chris Furrh .... both actors are devoid of emotion", and The Pittsburgh Press said of him in A Family for Joe, "the self-conscious, amateurish affectations of Chris Furrh as Nick". The local (to Furrh) Austin American-Statesman had a profile of him before the premiere of Lord of the Flies.. RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:26, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


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