Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Hyde (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. From WP:BIO

A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.

The arguments for keep did not convince me how this subject meets this criteria, hence this subject is considered to be not notable. Yamamoto Ichiro (talk) 11:59, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Chris Hyde (musician)

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Non-notable individual. The blogs mention his death, but no other coverage of the individual exists. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2016 (UTC)


 * delete not notable. VanEman (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as drummer of three notable bands, each having a wikipedia article,some of refs seem ok but better ones would help. Atlantic306 (talk) 19:39, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You have that backward. If a band has multiple notable musicians, it could be considered notable. If a musician has played in multiple bands (only recorded with two of them, so likely studio musician or touring drummer) it does not make the musician notable. If that were the case every L.A., New York and Nashville session musician would be considered notable, not to mention session musicians in other major centres where music is recorded (London, Berlin, Paris, etc.). WP:MUSICBIO does not support it. Sorry. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:45, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep while I do think you have a good point Walter, I believe he was a notable musician. The reason no other coverage happened before his death is because he was a drummer in the 80's to early 90's. There was no internet, therefore probably not many articles about him. But he was an important drummer for Christian Metal history, as is Jayson Sherlock and Lance Garvin. Though I will continue searching for articles about him independently, Vengeance Rising and Deliverance articles mentioning him. 10:50, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There was a great deal of press that write about Christian metal. None of the writers wrote about this drummer though. That is why I argue that he's not notable. That he played in several bands is inconsequential. I can list several drummers who were written about in the era of Jesus music, but we rely on sources, not appearances to determine notability. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:10, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:MUSICBIO, GNG, and WP:NOTINHERITED. Metalworker14 raises a notion that's common around Wikipedia: that if there's some excuse for reliable sources not to have given a subject at AfD "significant coverage," the provisions of WP:V and the GNG are suspended in his favor. This curious notion has no foundation in Wikipedia policy or guideline. If reliable sources about the subject (and not about any bands in which he played, which of course would fail NOTINHERITED) arise, I'm happy to change my vote.  Otherwise, an article about the subject cannot be sustained.   Ravenswing   13:20, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:55, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:55, 14 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as there's nothing suggesting the solid independent notability needed for this to be kept. SwisterTwister   talk  05:17, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. As already noted, the current references are insufficient to demonstrate notability of the individual. Notability of the band(s) does not confer notability on the individual. If anyone can find offline sources, go for it! Barring that, the article should be deleted. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 04:25, 18 April 2016 (UTC)


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