Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris McGrath (computer engineer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Sandstein  08:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Chris McGrath (computer engineer)

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Speedy declined. No notability. No coverage in Google News (he isn't the cricket player or journalist) The article promotes a new company which doesn't even have a web site. Working for notable companies doesn't confer notability. Not uniquely credited with a successful notable product, more of a back-room manager role. References listed in the article so far as I've checked in the last 5 minutes are irrelevant to the subject. Edit comments by single-article contributor assert "he's going to do something notable " which is WP:CRYSTAL; no need to create article now, if his fame will be that notable in a couple of months; there's plenty of time. Wtshymanski (talk) 17:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and Userify For what it's worth, I think we're in the right forum now, instead of an A7 speedy.  Move this to user space, let him work on it, and if the subject ever does establish notability, it will be painless to move it back.  For the moment, this fails the WP:CRYSTAL ball test.  Bradjamesbrown (talk) 18:03, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment by nominator Nothing showing up on Google Books, certainly not after you put "computer" in the search - this is not an Australian environmental lawyer. Of course this is the right forum, it's 10 times as much work and has a good chance of stalling out because no-one undertands how to participate. There's a reason only 1 in 1200 articles makes it to FA status... --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:30, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and Userify the lack of coverage in reliable sources makes the topic of the article clearly NN Josh Parris 22:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment from the Author: Hello, all... He isn't the sports photographer, either, and that's the guy who has the most pages. Whew! As the writer of this article, I really appreciate everyone's feedback. I am learning a lot from it, and cannot disagree with anything that has been said here. Josh Parris has suggested moving this to user, both so that I can work on it some more and so that it can wait until McGrath gains some notability. It is already at my user spot, so what do I do to just take it down off regular versus having it deleted? Do I have to do anything other than what I have done here, which is to say "Okay by me..."? I am fine with Delete & Userfy for now. Someone has also done some editing - thank you - so I will copy that and incorporate it into the user article, with the hope that we can put back up later. (Although I am not sure I quite get all the "citation needed" notes and would welcome comments about those...) Again, thanks for the comments and the help. Ideabender (talk) 22:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've copied into User:Ideabender/Chris McGrath (computer engineer) and tagged the article space with CSD:G7 Josh Parris 23:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I declined the G7 since more than one author has contributed, but I understand that all the authors would now prefer deletion, and I don't have any objection to a WP:SNOW close and deletion if this is the case. - Dank (push to talk) 01:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: Copying into the user namespace would go against the GFDL, especially because there is more than editor to this article. The appropriate action would be to move. I have removed the copy/paste version, per WP:CSD. It can be replaced with an appropriately attributed (i.e., moved) version of the article once this AfD closes, if that is the consensus. -- Kinu t /c  17:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete There are many people with borderline notability in the world and who have had press reports about them. UNfortunately I see this guy as the wrong side of the border. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 10:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
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