Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Par


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Perhaps folks should focus on improving the "Floatopia" article. Heh. Lightly salting this one, too. SarahStierch (talk) 16:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Chris Par

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Delete due to lack of established notability in accordance with the general guidelines for biographies, as well as primarily promotional content. Previously created three times, G11 speedy deleted, then salted. Recreated under this new title. The sources are primarily minor mentions in local newspapers about the subject as the individual wishing to establish a beach party, fighting the local city council attempting to shut it down. Note that the repeated external links/references are all duplicates of those listed in the article. Best regards,  Cindy  ( talk to me ) 09:46, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Essentially self-promotion. I've found a single story in the Santa Barbara newspaper, no indication that it's more than a local story. The user has been mounting a widespread social media campaign, all self-generated, and seems to think Wikipedia is another social media outlet that can be used for self-promotion. Most of the content is essentially a hoax, or at least exists only as the result of their proclamations on user-generated media.  Acroterion   (talk)   11:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - After noticing it had been speedied 3 times already I put it up for speedy again, but it was denied, so I guess we are here. Let's go through why this is a joke and hoax. The joke comes from the first and only picture, its not even serious and the title is 'Stupidswaggedup.jpeg' I think that is a little odd to start with, regardless of the image itself. It is probably not even a picture of the subject itself, if the link to thecampussocialite.com is believed to be correct. Though the so-called source for the Campus Socialite awards are anything but reliable. I doubt 'meatloaf' is a proper Journalist and it appears to be a site that anyone can write and post articles. As noted from the ' REP YOUR SCHOOL WRITE MARKET PR' and 'I market. I write.' Ads that suggest user-generated content with little to no editorial oversight.
 * Floatopia or whatever may be notable, but Chris Par probably isn't. According to the sources, Floatopia is the subject and Chris Par has one line, "UCSB student and Isla Vista resident Chris Par — took the lead and filled out the county’s permit application, which Farr said was inadequate because it made no provisions for security or sanitation." and "A UCSB student, Chris Par, applied to sponsor this year's event, according to the Santa Barbara Independent. The parks director called Par's application "sub-par" -- he really said that." and of course, "Chris Par’s performance at a County Board of Supervisors meeting last year, from which he was forcefully removed due to inarticulate, profanity-ridden arguments against the county’s closure of the beach..." In summary, all we get from 'reliable sources' is that he tried to organize it, was denied, and was later removed for a disruptive vulgar outburst. Is that the bar of notability? Is that the bar of GNG? Considering that Chris Par is not the subject, but 'Floatopia' is, then there is almost nothing to support more then writing half a paragraph about some organizer that made a scene one day. Which would fall under WP:NOTNEWS because such things happen thousands of times a year, even arrest reports are more notable than this.
 * I'd be more than happy to let this thing sit if the claims made elsewhere in the article are addressed as part of the notability claim. I.e. "and in this one year recovery from surgery stitching the half of his foot broken from the bottom half on medical leave from school and work, he has so far recorded 3 albums released on iTunes, Swag, Swag Juice, and 2par, with accompanying free mixtapes, ran for Mayor of Santa Barbara, 3rd District Supervisor, and rogue upon a constitutional convention amending the requirements to run so to do so, President of the United States in the 2012 electoral year, a convention, postponed 4 times, yet to be held." Anyone who claims to be President of the United States is a pretty much a joke or a hoax. Let alone other claims present in this article. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * FWIW I speedied the original three versions as hoaxes based on the campaign claims, not to mention A7 (both as an individual and as a musician), G11 and BLP problems, but here we are. Might as well make it stick so future versions can be G4. Acroterion   (talk)   14:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If the article did claim he was President, I might've speedied it as a hoax (or maybe not - a lot of the information seems to be true, if perhaps embellished). But it only claims that he intends to run.  Compare the claim that he ran for governor of California as a write-in candidate and lost; that's also a believable claim, the barrier to doing that is extremely low, and usually won't attract media attention. Wily D  15:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It was hard to understand, but the subject is ineligible to even RUN for president as he doesn't meet the requirements, let a lone the key 'must be at least age 35' part to do so. I doubt the other claims are even true as well, in the slightest possible way. A write-in is also a joke, because Santa Claus, Jesus and Homer Simpson have all been write in candidates for many elections. If more then 1% of voters made a vote for 'Chris Par' it still wouldn't pass GNG, and no source + contentious claim = delete. Considering that the image used in the article is not even the subject, the entire thing as a whole appears to be a joke. It is like replacing the picture of George Bush with Ozzy Osbourne for the article on 'George Bush'. Every aspect of the picture image violates the guidelines regarding images; frankly I don't see why that picture hasn't been speedied either. The time for speedy is over though, so I'll gladly wait until the end of this AFD. Least the discussion and issues can be archived. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - In addition to the above criticisms of the page which I agree with, I first noticed this article had jumped from near the bottom of the AfC pending list to the created page list yesterday which was anomalous to say the least... especially given its final form. In addition, the user who contributed this page just removed the AfD tag in what they categorized as a "minor edit", which casts some doubt as to whether they are acting in good faith with regards to Wikipedia tenets... Reynhart (talk) 17:21, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete and salt. Promotional, POV article ("heroism", "unprecedented", "out of spite", etc.), most notable for its boasting and its lack of independent reliable sources (the few sources that are cited in the article are about Floatopia and only peripherally about him). --MelanieN (talk) 17:21, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * delete no evidence or WP:RS supporting WP:GNG. Being a write in candidate or wanna be candidate does not make one notable. Nor does being a party legend. As the article says, he "saw minor success in album sales". One must not mistake flamboyance and self promotion for notability. I agree with the observations made by Reynhart, Cindy, Acroterion, and MelanieN . Dloh  cierekim  21:24, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Having reread article after Joe's fantastic cleanup, still not seeing subject as meeting WP:GNG. While there is some media coverage, it does not rise to significance. Dloh  cierekim  18:41, 23 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt. Further, nuke from orbit and mark as uninhabitable. This should be SPEEDY:G3, except that the article creator knows how to contest a SPEEDY. Jsharpminor (talk) 03:54, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * comment Concur w/ salt. 4 deletions is enough already. Dloh cierekim  04:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The correct response, at this stage, is speedy delete and salt per WP:SNOW. Let's not waste more time on this than absolutely necessary. --TS 04:39, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Alas, I've already offered an opinion and besides, I desysopped for a protracted absence. Dloh  cierekim  05:02, 23 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. I rewrote the article using just the info found in reliable sources. I found nothing aside from his activities surrounding the 2010 and 2011 Floatopia events. The claim that Par ran as a write-in candidate for California governor in 2010 seems not to be true - his name is not listed as a registered write-in by the CA Secretary of Statein either the primary or general elections that year, and did not receive a vote. Dohn joe (talk) 18:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Removes part of the hoax, took a lot of work to redo that mess, I'm also going to assume (from my own notes above) that he is not able to run for president also matters. A minor mention, in that (equally messy) Floatopia article seems justified. Thank you for also removing those photoshop 'album arts' and that picture of someone who clearly isn't Par. It makes whoever has to close this thing assessible to the one line trivial mentions in sources as they exist. The bulk of promotional, ranting fluff with blatant hoaxes were the concerns of almost everyone. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:01, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice very nice. Dloh cierekim  18:41, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wow! Great job Wikifying the article. I, am very impressed.
 * On the other hand, however, there's still the issue that simply being an organizer who worked on Floatopia and campaigned about beach closures doesn't make one notable; but this way, it's much easier to see who it is we're talking about and what Wikipedia-article-qualifying merits this person does or does not have. Jsharpminor (talk) 19:07, 23 August 2012 (UTC)


 * comment Having gone over the article's history, I found it was the work of a sole contributor (others were established users performing maintenance and tagging) . Now while I think any editor w/ his prosaic skill should be retained, I am troubled by the use he put his skills to and by the fact that this is the 4rth iteration of an article on a subject that does not meet the WP:GNG and whose purpose seems promotional. I still think it should be WP:SALTed. Dloh  cierekim  19:54, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Dloh, I'm all for editor retention. Trouble is, I think some people come to Wikipedia not to build the world's largest information repository, but to give their personal subject its 15 minutes of fame on the world's largest information repository. I totally agree: if there is any way to retain the original author, we should do so. But I just happen to think that most people, even if they otherwise would have been good editors, feel burned when their pet article is deleted (or AfD-nom'd), and don't come back. Jsharpminor (talk) 20:54, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Too true. Dloh cierekim  20:57, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, now that I read more on this guy, he's a freakin' genius. "Make Everything Free, Make Everyone Rich." "Party Revolution." Make every city look like Vegas, switch to an automated renewable-resource economy, pave the streets in gold, $10 million salaries for everybody, eliminate the lower class and put everyone into the 1%... man, I want this guy to be President. The preceding sarcasm was brought to you by Jsharpminor (talk) 21:04, 23 August 2012 (UTC)


 * comment At this juncture creator has reverted DohnJoe's improvements. perma link to improved version Dloh  cierekim  22:41, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I put it back at my last version, but that'll be my last involvement, I imagine... Dohn joe (talk) 01:46, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice work, though, Dohn - even in a probably losing cause. At least now we can see what is really there. --MelanieN (talk) 04:21, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

User:2swag Note: You're gonna have to copy and paste and replace (DOT) with a. in the URL as I can't post these here as links. Thanks! 2010 Live Televised Official California Governor Candidacy Announcement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-u9dSv9Nk 2011 Live Televised Official President of the United States Candidacy Annoucement http://www.youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=hOdrQh1Us78 2011 Santa Barbara Newspress Front Page For Presidential Candidacy Announcement https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150220502751320&set=a.419884361319.210264.591386319&type=1 2011 Santa Barbara Newspress Floatopia Hosts' Article https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150202100771320&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2010 Gubernational Campaign Site http://chrispar.tumblr(DOT)com 2014 Gubernational Campaign Site http://chrisparforgovernor.tumblr(DOT)com 2012 Presidential Campaign Site http://chrisparforpresident.tumblr(DOT)com 2012 Constitutional Convention to amend requirements to run so to do so http://www.chrisparforpresident.tumblr(DOT)com/CONVENTION 2013 Mayoral Campaign Site http://chrisparformayorofsantabarbara.tumblr(DOT)com 2010 Gubernational Prop 19 Campaign Stunt http://www.youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=AGGwlfEdID0 2010 Gubernational Write-In Candidacy https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=490129101319&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2010 Gubernational Propaganda at UCSB https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=466647551319&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2010 Infamous Golf Cart Incident http://www.onlyiniv(DOT)com/?p=1378 2010 Famous CNN GTA Headline https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150093471766320&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2010 Public Apology on Gubernational Campaign Site Dropping GTA Charges http://chrispar.tumblr(DOT)com/post/660370265/public-apology Rockstar Notability For GTA Incident Comparison http://28.media.tumblr(DOT)com/tumblr_lvch3qwflg1qdmz1oo1_500.png 2010 LA Time Highlighted Quote http://awurl(DOT)com/dfzudvSNF#first_awesome_highlight 2010 CNN Interview For Floatopia Piece http://www.cnn(DOT)com/video/?/video/us/2010/04/11/pkg.ca.floatopia.cnn 2010 Patriot Speech Sparking National Publication LA Times sparking National News Broadcaster CNN http://www.youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=kZHekJt4-3A 2010 Heroic, Legend Highlighted Quote http://awurl(DOT)com/EmqxnhDde#first_awesome_highlight 2011 Wikipedia Unlinked Reference https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150090394321320&set=a.419884361319.210264.591386319&type=1 2010 Floatopia Event Invite https://www.facebook(DOT)com/events/167190520192/ 2011 Floatopia Event Invite https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150229787616320&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2012 Floatopia Event Invite https://www.facebook(DOT)com/events/220079771394350/ 2011 Banned From Santa Barbara https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150402039086320&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2011 Banned From Santa Barbara https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150230114641320&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2010 Signing My Name Away To $5 Million In Liablity To Hold Floatopia On Beach https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=415678986319&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2007 Founder Of The UCSB Party Scene https://www.facebook(DOT)com/groups/20063240409/ 2011 Found Of SBpartyscene.com http://sbpartyscene(DOT)com 2010 Fanmade Van Wilder comparison https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=10150153382561320&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2011 Campus Socialite Award By Legitmate Nomination And National Vote http://thecampussocialite(DOT)com/campus-socialite-awards-best-college-promoter 2010 Online Revolution Surrender After National Guard Confrontation In Front Of House After Emailing The White House About Starting Party Revolution https://www.facebook(DOT)com/photo.php?fbid=415891161319&set=a.472538676319.259252.591386319&type=3 2012 Worldwide iTunes Released Album, Swag Under Chris Par http://itunes.apple(DOT)com/ca/album/swag/id533838321 2012 Worldwide iTunes Released Album, Swag Juice Under King Par http://itunes.apple(DOT)com/us/album/swag-juice/id540764539 2012 US Only iTunes Released Album, 2par Under 2par http://itunes.apple(DOT)com/us/album/2par/id545435917 2012 Datpiff Released Mixtapes Under Chris Party http://www.datpiff(DOT)com/profile/TheChrisParty 2012 2par Band Page http://itunes.apple(DOT)com/us/album/2par/id545435917 2012 Kings Tour TBA Announcement http://2par.tumblr(DOT)com/UPCOMING 2012 Famous [Album] [First Half] (Official Music Video) http://www.youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=cC2IA9-lKv8 2012 2par Poster http://www.zazzle(DOT)com/2par_print-228131310310321089 2012 2par Poster http://www.zazzle(DOT)com/life_of_leisure_poster-228205431581362308 2013 MTV Floatopia http://mtvfloatopia.tumblr(DOT)com Everything Cited With Further Verbal and Pictured Explanation Can Be Verified Found At https://www.facebook(DOT)com/WhoChrisPar/info Now After Reviewing The Sources, How Can You Possibly Deny Chris Par's Notability as a Socialite, Politician, and Rapper? Chris Par hosted Floatopia 3 years in a row to promote these endeavors and after falling from 15 feet from a balcony at the 2011 MTV VMAS and upon accepting a lower amount off a lawsuit with the condition of the development of a pilot for a proposed reality show tentatively titled IV Shore to document his journey to even greater legendary prominence he will have a bigger television franchise than Jersey Shore, so you will know his name before the end of this year, and sure as hell better stop deleting the facts when you all are the ones biased against his greatness, everything stated are non promotional statements, statements made, soley, to tell the story of an sung hero, and legend in Santa Barbara, and already the World in what will be an unprecedented Constitutional Convention this October 6, 2012. The world will be watching, will you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2swag (talk • contribs) 03:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC) — 2swag (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * what will be an unprecedented Constitutional Convention this October 6, 2012. Please try to stay reality-based, will you? results of Google search for Constitutional Convention "October 6, 2012" --MelanieN (talk) 04:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC) User:2swag 2012 Constitutional Convention to amend requirements to run so to do so http://www.chrisparforpresident.tumblr(DOT)com/CONVENTION [Please Read Invitation Sent To All Of Congress and look up National Monument Reservations on October 6th]


 * So he has a Facebook page. Delete as the political equivalent of a MySpace band. Drmies (talk) 03:53, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * He's ran 3 campaigns, released 3 albums on iTunes through indie labels (on the same playing field as Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, and Justin Bieber, all of whom, though ghey, suppose as equally notable), hosted the biggest beach party in the world and became an internet meme for it (please review at least mtvfloatopia.tumblr(dot)com), and has a pilot being developed projected to be bigger than Jersey Shore, he did not just appear, if you haven't followed his notability since 2010 you are a new fan and therefore have been out of the loop for 3 years this page should have been created years ago!! (This unsigned comment posted by User:2swag.)
 * OK, so he's also a MySpace band. Surprising that this brilliant man hasn't generated any coverage in the real media. Probably a conspiracy. Drmies (talk) 04:07, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment He certainly merits an award for tireless self-promotion using social media. Trouble is, he thinks Wikipedia's social media too.   Acroterion   (talk)   04:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Isn't there some kind of Hall of Fame for the most amazing AfD discussions? This could be a candidate. --MelanieN (talk) 04:17, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If there is one, Articles for deletion/Superbradyon (2nd nomination) and Articles for deletion/Luis González-Mestres would be in the top two. There's a bunch of blocks and an SPI to go with it, not to mention a couple of websites explaining how Wikipedia is suppressing blah blah blah. Drmies (talk) 04:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You've never seen my talk page, I guess--it's where politicians come and hobnob. Drmies (talk) 04:15, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sure it's enjoyable to chat with the Constitution Party's candidate for Coffee County Recorder of Wills about your suppression of their candidacy/free speech/right to an article on WP. . I did see Mr. Drmies Jr. though: congratulations!  Acroterion   (talk)   04:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! (I still can't believe no one has slapped a "NOTMYSPACE" note on it.) Drmies (talk) 04:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

User:2swag That was from a figure of authority's point of view, watch that speech here and judge for yourself its merit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZHekJt4-3A and is not a politician's job to spread his message? Does not one must start somewhere? Is iTunes not a legitimate enough source, he's got more albums on there than Notorious B.I.G., Mac Miller, and Wiz Khalifa. —Preceding undated comment added 04:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC) User:2swag Is stating candidacy on live television for both Governor and President on two separate occasions, with a means to amend the constitution via constitutional convention to do so set for October 6, 2012 not enough? —Preceding undated comment added 04:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC) User:2swag How can you deny a person did or is currently doing something simply because you have been previously unaware? Whether or not you know of a person's relevancy does not change the fact that they are relevant! You are simply out of the loop. You all are denying shit that happened actually happened, stints as low as denying the holocaust happened. Whether or not you want to remember it happened, it still fucking happened you douchelord cumquats. Wikipedia should document what happened as accurately as possible, just telling the story is in no way promotional, you are just spin doctoring it as you all are lacking something called neutrality. I'm sorry if I offended you, but I thought we were in a state of informality here from your snide, sarcastic, and unprofessional degrading comments toward the relevancy of the subject, I was just playing along the lines of standards you have set but you are correct it is no use fighting fire with fire, I just lost it there for a second, I truely apologize, and appreciate your consideration. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2swag (talk • contribs) 05:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC) User:2swag so you guys are going to let this guys page stand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Famous_Bushman over a party legend at ucsb, nationally accredited socialite, host of the biggest beach party in the world 3 years in a row, rapper with 3 albums out, and man who's ran statewide campaigns for governor at the age of 21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8uTWAwbq7Y (watch that unpreviously sourced), Mayor at the age of 22, and is hosting a constitutional convention to amend constitutional requirements to run so to get on the ballot and run for President of the United States at 23 in the 2012 electoral year http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m91tnb2A2r1qcatk6o1_1280.jpg (invitation send to all of congress)? You all have a clear bias if you are willing to leave these things out, even without further explanation, if these sentences were added to the brief description you all would salt it because you don't want to believe true what is clearly happening? This does not go along the lines of fairness nor the guidelines of a neutral wikipedia article, there is just something else, some personal distaste toward the subject you don't want the world to know of and I hope you can come to realize this and allow these facts to be included for if he were ever to die for this revolution it best be documented properly that he was a revolutionary trying to change the world, and forever a legend. If not on wikipedia, it will be recorded and covered around the world, that he died a hero, and then, maybe only then will you come to recognize what he has done for the world and publish a proper wikipedia article accurately describing his notoriety and prominence as an individual. —Preceding undated comment added 18:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW: Here, from one of the actual sources cited in the article, is a independent source's evaluation of Chris Par's importance: "(A Floatopia organizer) mentioned fourth-year UCSB student Chris Par’s performance at a County Board of Supervisors meeting last year, from which he was forcefully removed due to inarticulate, profanity-ridden arguments against the county’s closure of the beach, as an example of what not to do. (Par organized the “Protest to Stop Closing the Beach,” for Saturday, April 9 at a location called “They’re Gonna Close the Beach Every Weekend Until 2020,” which 16 people attended on Facebook but apparently nobody attended in real life.)" --MelanieN (talk) 04:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, 2swag, that's enough. Please stop disrupting this AfD. You obviously have no idea what Wikipedia is and isn't, and "douchelord cumquats" isn't funny enough. The next outburst will be followed by a block. Rest assured, every participant here will thoroughly peruse your Facebook page in their quest for neutrally establishing your notability. Drmies (talk) 04:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. Fails WP:BIO. A search for sources revealed nothing beyond what is already in the article, which amounts to exceedingly brief mentions in articles about Floatopia. Gobōnobo  + c 08:48, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Snowball Delete (if such a thing exists - otherwise, the regular brand will do). Is below par in terms of WP:BIO requirements. And Adoil Descended (talk) 10:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * comment(jeeez I wish the edit button was at the bottom of the section) @2swag-- Self-published sources, Youtube, FaceBook and most of what you listed are not reliable 3rd party sources not connected w/ the subject. Further, subjects' actions by no means are notable in the specialized Wikipedia sense of the word. I do wish you had read and understood the links pertaining to notability and sourcing I left on your talk page. What info is provided by reliable, 3rd party sources does not comprise the sort of national coverage we need, nor does it support a claim of encyclopedic notability. Dloh  cierekim  13:45, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG & WP:ANYBIO by wide margins. No significant coverage in reliable sources to speak of, just a few passing mentions.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:38, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * The matter with World Famous Bushman is that the subject received sufficient news coverage. Chris Par, however, has not received sufficient news coverage for his alleged music career. Please note that being a "party legend at ucsb, nationally accredited socialite, host of the biggest beach party in the world 3 years in a row" is not notability. Additionally, all the information you claim about the subject is either not supported or irrelevantly supported. Wikipedia is not a social networking or a website to promote yourself. SwisterTwister   talk  22:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

2swag it is a conspiracy the mainstream media has not covered his campaign for the ideas of economic freedom goes against everything capitalism is basedly structured for, and the political agendas of the new world order also known as the illuminati who oversees and controls all mainstream media broadcasts. I hope I have made it clear as to why you are not finding what constitutes as a "source" covering his campaigns though through the underground he has raised to prominence as much as one can without the help of "national coverage", aside from the floatopia scandals. Please reconsider the original article without accusations of self promotion when they are just facts being stated as to what this person has so far accomplished in his lifetime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2swag (talk • contribs) 18:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - I propose a new law. Call it the WikiConspiracy law. It's exactly like Godwin's Law except when someone in a Wikipedia discussion uses the phrase "It's A Conspiracy" they automatically lose the discussion. Regards, -- Man way  18:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * How's this? User:Jsharpminor/Conspiracy Jsharpminor (talk) 05:55, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

2swag Conspiracy was used only to defend the sarcastic, "it must be a conspiracy" comment from earlier I cite: Surprising that this brilliant man hasn't generated any coverage in the real media. Probably a conspiracy. Drmies (talk) 04:07, 24 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2swag (talk • contribs)
 * Delete as per the nomination.--Juristicweb (talk) 03:41, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete under WP:SNOW In claiming a media conspiracy to not report Chris Par, the point has been conceded: even 2swag is now saying there is a lack of reliable coverage of Chris Par. Jsharpminor (talk) 05:57, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * @2swag Please. Sign your posts at the end of the post. Not at the beginning. Dloh cierekim  12:32, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
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