Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Sligh (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep for now. Closing logic is the same as that for Articles for deletion/Gina Glocksen and Articles for deletion/Haley Scarnato. JoshuaZ 20:53, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Chris Sligh
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DELETE - This person has done nothing really worth noting in grand scheme of things. he is a moderately good singer but so are thousands of others. That's my opinion anyway. Delete. Another failed Reality TV contestant. Fails WP:BIO, WP:N etc. Was the third to be evicted from the most recent American Idol, he has done nothing noteable before or after his few appearences on the show. Is now a member of a band-however, this band is NOT noteable. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 19:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT - Notability is solely based on appearance on a show Corpx 04:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * As I stated below, that's not correct. He's currently on tour with the other finalists, selling out or close to selling out arenas all over the US. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Either keep or redirect to American Idol (season 6) (redirect slightly preferred). See my comments at Articles for deletion/Haley Scarnato. TLK'in 04:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The first AfD showed there was consensus this person was notable. Of course, notability should not be determined at the height of a short burst of news coverage or TV viewership. But this would show that a person's notability is relative to points in time, doesn't it? I am asking this for guidance with future American Idol (and other reality show) contestant biographies, including if redirects of contestants are appropriate. TLK'in 04:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Can we please stop this? Every few months, we get users who decide that we need to nuke as many AI articles as possible. I don't get it. The Idol Wikiproject states that all finalists get a page. We have pages for almost all of the other finalists no matter what position they finish in. This is one of many previous deletion votes on similar issues. The thing is. I make the same point I did back in February and March. Right now, these people are notable. In a year, if they haven't released anything or are no longer notable, then I say yes, let's remove the articles. But until then, this just feels a bit premature. I mean. Folks. 10 of the finalists (including Chris Slight) are currently on tour and selling out or selling well at many arenas. That feels pretty notable to me. I'm tired of doing this every 3-4 months. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * A low-importance Wikiproject is not a policy, guideline or important. You claim that their noteabliltiy may expire in a year, so we should keep the articles until then. That breaks WP:N. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 10:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * See WP:NOTAGAIN. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 10:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep, he is notable for being an American Idol finalist. --musicpvm 08:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Being a contestant on a Reality TV series does not make one noteable, see WP:BIO and WP:N. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 10:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This isn't the typical reality show. And it's not as if she was on the show for one week or two. I've said before that I understand not having articles on semi-finalists. And besides, notability outside of the show might not be known for awhile. Look at Mandisa. She just now released her first CD and it's been a year since she was on the show. Well over a year. I just see too much incorrect information and assumptions in your nomination. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 10:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your argument fails WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. If these subjects become noteable, they deserve their own articles. Until then, they should be deleted and redirected to the American Idol page. Exactly how different is this to other Reality shows? Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 10:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * DELETE - This person has done nothing really worth noting in grand scheme of things. he is a moderately good singer but so are thousands of others. That's my opinion anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalejenkins (talk • contribs)
 * KEEP, his notability extends beyond that of a game-show contestant. As mentioned above, he is currently on tour with other AI artists, being viewed live by tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of people. Additionally, the CD put out by his band, Half Past Forever, has sold well and has remained high on the list of best-selling cd's on Amazon.com. Additionally, Half Past Forever was recently signed to a national record label. That in and of itself already makes Sligh more notable than most AI contestants, and worthy of his own page. I agree with Woohookitty, we just went through this a few months ago and established his notability; must we continue to thrash this dead horse? Check out his personal website at http://www.chrissligh.com/, it'll put to rest some of your doubts. (Barang 19:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC))
 * I think alot of it is folks who don't realize just how big this show is and how big the contestants on it are. It's simply not a "normal" reality show. I mean. Every Idol winner save one has had their first CD debut at #1. And several lower ranked ones have found success beyond the show. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 01:53, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Reality TV winners are noteable, other contestants are not. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 09:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Reality TV winners are noteable, other contestants are not" - This comment is coming from Dalejenkins, who only last month argued that "Reality TV contestants (however long they stay in, however little an impact after their departure), may still have their own articles". Double standards are at play here.Legalbeaver 17:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.