Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Straub


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:12, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Chris Straub

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Fails WP:BAND, WP:GNG. Google search did not result in sufficient independent sources. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 15:22, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 15:50, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 15:50, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Couldn't find any sources to support GNG or SNG. Lourdes  17:10, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Not every musician has to have an record label or a news paper article. In fact for an encyclopedia "knowledge is power". And he is also a very talented musician. That´s why I made this article of him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathmetal guitar (talk • contribs) 20:21, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If the deletion goes through, redirect again to Kris Straub, as it's a likely misspelling. ~ Mable ( chat ) 20:37, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It seems like this subject is not covered by any reliable sources, so I definitely approve of it being redirected. ~ Mable ( chat ) 11:08, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete As per nominator. No indication of notability.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:46, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment The indications of notability are people like me who listen to his music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathmetal guitar (talk • contribs) 10:03, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete (or redirect per above) Fails WP:BAND. Doesn't seem to have got any reviews in reliable sources in English or German language media, or chart hits or awards, and no other "claim to fame". The albums are self-published (2 albums on a well-known label would indicate notability). --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:42, 10 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment Its melodic death metal.. chart hits or awards ??? Are you joking? This is no mainstream music like that stuff on the radio. Just give it a chance. I know that this kind of music is not that popular like radio music. But he makes good stuff in the eyes of a metal head. And like I said...knowledge is power so why not ?Deathmetal guitar (talk) 10:54, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Here's now I see this. When an artist (of any genre) is talented and unique, people in his/her immediate surrounding will notice. Other bands or small club promoters will notice through word-of-mouth. There will be club gigs etc. There will posters for those and after a while there will be coverage by fans through social media. Eventually, boutique record labels or bigger promoters will become aware. There will be features at Wacken Open Air. At this point, there should be plenty of google results. At this point, notability is established. I'd also assume for a German musician that there is an article in DE Wiki first. This is not the case. Wikipedia has clear guidelines which have evolved over many years and through lots of controversy, consensus was reached. The result is WP:BAND - which is not achieved in this case. Wikipedia is not a means of promotion to achieve notability. It follows notability.pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 13:08, 10 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment I just wanted to do an favor for him :( nothing bad about this I guess. But well then deleted the article and link it back to a guy who doesent anything to do with Chris Straub. Very sad thats wikipedia will get obselete in the future, cause the people will use google more then wiki. And the reasons will be things like this here. And I guess, I didnt make bad work on the article. I looked at other new articles and the most of them are really bad and should be deleted. But the link to a comic guy is and will be not right. So guidlines here guidelines there... wrong is wrong. And I tryed to erease this error. Just think about it. Encyclopedia is a thing which should be completed and not something who does link wrong things.Deathmetal guitar (talk) 14:09, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it too much, Deathmetal guitar, you did nothing really wrong. Google is a search engine, so it has a completely different purpose than this encyclopedia does. A large percentage of our traffic comes from Google, after all. As Chris Straub gets bigger and more popular, perhaps he'll eventually get noticed by established sources - time will tell :) ~ Mable ( chat ) 10:09, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know, but I think he earns this for his good musical work :)and why not to try ? Even if the article gets deleted I guess I did         something good or tried :D. But as fact of notability, there are not so much metal musicians out there which make instrumental death metal so he is a very rare artist in this genere.Deathmetal guitar (talk) 12:52, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's hope more people will talk about him then ^_^ ~ Mable ( chat ) 17:21, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Well explained Jake. and yes.... this fails WP:BAND  Gtstricky Talk or C 01:15, 11 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep I found a source which is not self-published http://metalsalute.blogspot.de/2017/02/metal-albums-release-in-february-2017.html https://twitter.com/melodicdm_bot/status/765577376604368896 https://twitter.com/melodicdm_bot/status/827065927229329409 Its just a release listing but it is not self-published.Deathmetal guitar (talk) 05:33, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You are only allowed to weigh in as a "keep" once. Also, a trivial mention in a genre fan blog and in someone's Twitter feed doesn't come close to "significant coverage" criteria worthy of a wikipedia article, regardless of it being independent of the musician in question. ShelbyMarion (talk) 11:52, 12 May 2017 (UTC)


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