Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Tickle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 05:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Chris Tickle

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Notability has yet to be established. If he gets a fight against a bigger name opponent, then recreate the page. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 09:42, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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Delete. If he had one more fight I would say let it go. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 10:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LlamaAl (talk) 04:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - This is not about being a MMA fan. We should respect policies and guidelines whether we like them or not. --LlamaAl (talk) 05:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - What LlamaAl said is right. I am an MMA fan, I dont believe Tickle is notable enough yet for his own wikipedia page. We dont need to have a bunch of pages for unnotable fighters on wikipedia. Plus you need to state a policy based reason to keep the article Willdawg111. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 08:19, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: Being a former UFC fighter is not enough to make a fighter notable. The UFC is notable, all their fighters are not, because notability is not inherited.  WP:MMANOT is a good guideline for establishing whether an individual fighter is notable or not, and Chris Tickle fails that guideline. CaSJer (talk) 21:24, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete One UFC fight (and that was on TUF) does not meet WP:NMMA. Jakejr (talk) 23:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NMMA. --TreyGeek (talk) 02:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:NMMA by having 4 notable fights and one of those was on a top-tier promotion (UFC). Mazter00 (talk) 13:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete/Comment I find this to be an interesting issue. To my knowledge, the season of TUF that this fighter participated in is the only TUF season where the fights were live (all other seasons were tape-delayed and thus the fights were exhibitions).  Therefore, for this season alone there may be argument that the TUF fights were professional UFC fights.  Here, the fighter fought clearly once for the UFC in the Finale.  The first round TUF loss is debatable as a UFC fight and the fight to 'get in the house' is debatable as a UFC fight (assuming both these fights were live and thus not exhibitions).  A question is if these were 'professional' fights.  While clearly these guys were paid, were they paid to fight and for each fight or were they paid for being on the show?  To me it is the latter and therefore TUF participation (outside of the Finale show) should be considered more under Notability (Reality Television participants).  Further, while I am sure these guys are under some sort of contract, the UFC promotes this as the winner getting a 6-figure contract to fight in the UFC.  Therefore, I question how much the UFC considers these fights professional UFC fights.  Moreover, on the UFC website they only list Tickle as having one fight in the UFC (as opposed to 2 or 3) and his record is consistent with the fights not being counted - http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Chris-Tickle.  In view of all this I think delete is appropriate, but I do think this raises a question that should be addressed for this season of TUF. -RonSigPi (talk) 16:37, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
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