Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Wade (writer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 02:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Chris Wade (writer)
Coming across this deleted article 2 years on, I think Wade warrants an article. He is working with Rik Mayall again according to his website this year. He has gone on to do some other notable things. He has worked with comedian Charlie Chuck on an audiobook. here is an interview http://www.gigglebeats.co.uk/2011/11/you-only-live-once-thank-goodness-a-short-interview-with-writer-chris-wade/

He has also worked with Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson on a charity book called The Cat Profiles http://fabulousanimalrescueproject.blogspot.com/2011/07/chris-wade-and-cat-profiles.html As well as this he has monthly podcasts called Hound Dawg Radio featuring Dave Davies of The Kinks and Wilko Johnson. Wade has also been interviewed by such major shows on Talk Radio Europe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyTYEFvd-Mk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ724q--eWM http://www.booksyoulove.co.uk/book-reviews/author-interview-with-chris-wade/ http://alternativereel.com/includes/cult-fiction/display_review.php?id=00096

There are numerous interviews and reviews on his work. Would be good to see this article re examined and possibly published if that can be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.115.154 (talk) 10:22, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


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I can find no substantial coverage in reliable sources to indicate this author would meet WP:BIO inclusion guidelines, though the (verifiable) association with Rik Mayall made me optimistic there might be some. A prod tag was removed by the article's creator. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


 * As a Rik Mayall fan I thought putting a page on about this writer would be fine with the rules of Wikipedia. He and Rik Mayall have worked together and there are various interviews where the writer of the audiobook promotes the content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchy98 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Frenchy98. I can indeed see evidence that the two worked together, but that's not enough alone to mean the writer necessarily merits an article in Wikipedia. (Similarly, self-published promotional material can never be used alone to establish that a subject should have an article.) Instead we have inclusion guidelines (called "notability") that essentially state an article's subject must have received substantial third-party coverage - i.e. been profiled and discussed at length in books, newspapers, journals, and so on - before they merit an encyclopedia article. I'm unable to find that kind of coverage for this writer, which is why I've proposed deletion here. If you're aware of any substantial independent coverage in sources like that, please do go ahead and add it to the article. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

here is the writer being interviewed about the book. i tried to insert these links into the article but it is closed for me to edit now, so i am unable to paste them in. http://1stangel.co.uk/talkthetalk/chris-wade/  another one here   http://www.scribd.com/doc/37736644/Hound-Dawg-Issue-10-RIK-MAYALL-INTERVIEW  and here: http://magazine.brighton.co.uk/Noticeboard/Brighton-News/The-Rise-Of-the-Young-One:-Author-Teams-Up-With-Rik-Mayall-For-Hilarious-&-Disturbing-Adventure/39_111_3225#a    i would paste them in but it wont allow me to do so. sorry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchy98 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC) Sorry i managed to paste in an interview for the article, where he speaks of the audiobook with rik mayall —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchy98 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment:Thanks for adding the links, Frenchy98. I've had a look at them:

So for me, these still aren't enough to show the subject as notable. We can now wait to see what others reading the deletion discussion think. Gonzonoir (talk) 14:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Interview in Hound Dawg magazine - this one's certainly lengthy, but it looks from Hound Dawg's official website as though the magazine is a freesheet that Wade edits and publishes himself. Therefore it's not an independent source and can't be used to establish notability.
 * Interview at "Talk the Talk" - I can't find much information about this site, but I don't believe it meets our standards for reliable sources: the help and questionnaires pages seem to suggest that rather than having an editorial board that selects and interviews subjects, the feature subjects are self-selecting, and that rather than actually being interviewed they simply fill out a questionnaire and email it in. ("Can anyone fill out a questionnaire?" "Yes! Please do.") So that too wouldn't meet my definition of an independent source.
 * Interview in Brighton Magazine - this is the best of the sources, as Brighton Magazine does at least appear to be independent of the subject. But it also seems to be a tourist board magazine - that sails rather close to the promotional wind for my liking, and a single interview is not generally held to amount to significant coverage in reliable sources.

he speaks about it here too  http://www.creativeboom.co.uk/leeds/2010/09/07/interview-with-chris-wade/

there is info on more projects here, his hugh cornwell book and malcolm mcdowell book http://www.zani.co.uk/Interviews.aspx?id=79 http://www.alternativereel.com/includes/articles/display_article.php?id=00074 there seem to be lots of interviews with him, but hey if it doesnt meet the requirements it dont matter really. My first time on Wikipdia so i was just seeing how its done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchy98 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable as the article stands. Self-published authors are always harder to establish notability for, but there's no independent referencing outside the interviews. (The Brighton one seems more interested in Mayall, but the other site does carry interviews with well-known people such as Piers Anthony - whom I cannot see 'emailing an interview' in. Could be wrong. He's a surprising person sometimes. I feel notability could be established in Chris Wade's case. Find more independent stuff. Working with Rik Mayall is a possible aid to notability. (Never seen him in action - not my scene - but he is well-known.) If this article goes, try again when there's more to go on. Peridon (talk) 15:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

http://www.alternativereel.com/includes/cult-fiction/display_review.php?id=00077 http://magazine.brighton.co.uk/Clubs-&-Music/Reviews/Hugh-Cornwell:-New-Wave-legend-Plays-Two-Landmark-Albums-Front-To-Back/21_45_3017#a Reviews here too. Searching on google u find a lot to do with wade, but the hugh cornwell and the cutey and the sofaguard are his best known stuff. The Hound dawg has some high profile interviews too, he s interviewed members of vlvet underground, captain beefheart, kinks and squeeze. also victoria coren and other people like arthur smith, rik again and ade edmondson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchy98 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC) and yes rik mayall is very popular in england


 * Comment: Thanks Frenchy. I took a look at these additional sources too: I do think they're better than the original ones, but for me they're still not sufficiently focused on Wade himself to really speak to his notability. They're interviewing him about McDowell and Cornwell, more than about himself. And though they do seem to be independent they're more at the level of zines than really professional-quality news sources. (Not that I think there's anything actually suspect about them, just that I'm not seeing evidence that they meet the standards of professionalism that WP:SPS sets out. So I think this stuff strengthens the case for notability, but I'm still not seeing a "smoking gun" of in-depth coverage of Wade himself in a heavyweight source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzonoir (talk • contribs)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  --  Ray  Talk 05:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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