Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Ward (playwright)


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The result was no consensus. Daniel (talk) 06:17, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Chris Ward (playwright)

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Perhaps others can do better, but I found almost nothing in terms of quality secondary sources. Possibly (talk) 00:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete lacks the level of 3rd-party, indepdent, reliable source significant coverage to lead to a passing of GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:36, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. My first question was, "Who?" However, after doing a bit of digging, I did manage to find a few secondary sources. My opinion is that the write-ups in The Stage and the British Theatre Association journal Drama alone are enough to satisfy WP:GNG. In addition to those, I've added more references—some primary, some secondary—from sources perhaps not quite as notable. I'll continue adding to the article but I think there's already enough there to warrant keeping it. -- GentlemanGhost  (séance)  00:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article has been improved and good references now per above. -- HistoricalAccountings (talk) 18:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 13:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per GentlemanGhost. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 14:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if there were plenty of reliable sources, they would be sources on a subject insufficiently notable because none of the four criteria of WP:AUTHOR are met. Criterion 2: "... similar to guerilla theater" – unspecific; 3: doesn't appear that the work is the primary subject of multiple ... reviews etc. & 4. no sign. critical attention. The more specific WP:AUTHOR need be applied not the more general WP:GNG. Clarification: not that the GNG doesn't apply but the AUTHOR SNG clarifies what the vague language of GNG (such as "significant") means in this context — Alalch Emis (talk) 14:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for weighing in. To your point about WP:AUTHOR, I found multiple reviews of Ward's shows with Wet Paint Theatre in The Stage, |here, |here, |here, |here, |here, |here, and |here. Unfortunately, these reviews are hidden behind a paywall, so I had been reluctant to cite them. However, in response to your comment, I have added some. It's tricky to get access to reviews and critical commentary from just prior to the advent of the Web. Still, I continue to believe this article meets the criteria for inclusion. Cheers. GentlemanGhost   (séance)  22:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)


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