Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Church International


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The result was speedy delete. per compelling evidence of WP:HOAX 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 21:45, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Christian Church International

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I'm not sure whether this article is a hoax or just non-notable with a bunch of implausible claims, but either way deletion is appropriate.


 * The article has no reliable sources that support its main claims. As of Special:PermanentLink/1011888507, the article has thirteen citations:
 * References 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 10, and 13 go to its website or Facebook page
 * References 4, 6, and 12 are to "blastingnews.com". While it's unclear exactly what sort of editorial control this has (see this RSN thread), the particular articles read as excessively credulous of some very extrordinary claims (e.g. that Afghanistan has a large population of this one obscure progressive Christian sect).
 * References 5 and 11, while reliable, don't mention this church (both allow snippet view on Google Books)
 * Reference 9 might look usable at first glance, but it's a Huffington Post blog post, and one written by the founder of the church.
 * A WP:BEFORE didn't turn up any additional sources (though the name is so generic that it's hard to do, given the apparently unrelated organizations sharing its name)
 * The article subject has unusual ties to other suspected hoaxes.
 * It supposedly runs the Arnulf Seminary of Theology (current AfD here); see that for why I suspect that to be a hoax.
 * It, like Arnulf Seminary of Theology, shares a PO box with an alleged medical accreditation body International Association of Therapists & Medical Doctors (IAAT) (current AfD here)
 * The article creator, OnSpeech, also created Government of Rhodesia, which was recently deleted as a blatant hoax

Unlike the others mentioned above, this might be real but non-notable, so I'm unsure if this qualifies for G3. Vahurzpu (talk) 07:17, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Vahurzpu (talk) 07:17, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Vahurzpu (talk) 07:17, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete pretty certainly also a hoax, though with fringe denominations the normal spiritual word salad makes it hard to tell. For our purposes it’s an article about a Facebook page with 1.2 million (possibly bot) likes that makes far fetched claims based on its own website and another unreliable source. I hope the creator of these articles is deriving some entertainment from watching us discuss them, as it would be a shame if they felt they’d just wasted their time. Mccapra (talk) 12:32, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy deletion This was article was written bei User OnSpeech who is a family member and suffering from a severe mental illness which is progressive and let’s him more and more do things he shouldn’t. Unfortunately he still can formulate rather well, but his mind is most deeply disrupted. I can’t get into more details since this is public and I am acting under my real name (with a minor change). How disturbed my xxx OnSpeech is you could observe when he wrote the most crazy content about an African country just recently. I learned about all this today and here (as already in other discussions) I can only express the most sincere apologies in the name of the entire family and the caretakers. OnSpeech even created fantasy websites for institutions et al. which we then deleted and deleted... - Since this escalated now so severely we will end his free access to the internet and delete his account as soon as somebody pls. tells me how so that I can tell the caretaker. As to the content: I know for sure that this church exists, but I am also sure that what OnSpeech wrote about them is from dreamland, fantasy. You would do this church a favor by deleting this nonsense of OnSpeech’s fantasies as quickly as possible. Thank you and sorry again! Klaus Bells (talk) 14:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The above account and the original creator, have both been blocked as socks of each other. Jclemens (talk) 17:39, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:23, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - elaborate hoax Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:25, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete That this hoax has existed more than 2 years is a mark against Wikipedia. Although we have hoaxes that have existed over 18 years, but that is a different story.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:54, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per above: hoax. –– F ORMAL D UDE ( talk ) 01:40, 7 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.