Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Ortez


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The result was   delete. v/r - TP 13:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Christian Ortez

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Does not appear notable at all. Darkness Shines (talk) 00:25, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * This individual is notable based on the ties to prominent figures he is involved with and the extent and size of the charitable organizations he belongs to, he also serves as a role model and an example that individuals in the financial services industry are not all corrupt and there are some that are in it based on goodwill and are try to make a difference for the better of society. Due to the nature of the financial services industry, client names and additional references cannot be discussed in a public forum per U.S. government privacy laws, limiting the ability to include additional evidence in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westcoastpress (talk • contribs) 00:39, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability is not inherited. Personal and/or professional associations with prominent persons do not establish notability. Could not find references to support claim of being honored as "U.S. Army Athlete of the Year". Notability is additionally not established through significant coverage in reliable and independent secondary sources. Cind.   amuse  (Cindy) 01:51, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete. Notability is definitely established by association and the relationships held with notable personalities and organizations. For example, take a look at Eugene E. Parker, sports agent for NFL players such as Deion Sanders and others, Mr. Parker is notable for being excellent at representing and making great deals for this athlete clients, Just like Mr. Ortez is notable for running top-tier investment strategies for his athlete clients and helping them grow their wealth. Other examples, Judy Harrison Barry, philanthropist known exclusively for her desire to make a difference in her North Carolina community, has ties to politicians is not a politician herself, but is notable for her drive and her philanthropic efforts, think Martin Luther King, another great figure known for philanthropy and advocating rights. Last example, Kirk Sommer, entertainment agent for William Morris agency, notable and made notable by the A list clients he represents and for the quality and caliber of his work for them, just like Mr. Ortez is in the field of wealth management for his A list clients. These are professionals known and notable in their respective fields as experts that excel at their craft. They may not be notable to all of us, but they sure are notable in the specific niche industries and areas of expertise. Do not delete, thank you for your input. (West Coast Press) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westcoastpress (talk • contribs) 02:30, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Notability is a metric term used on Wikipedia to identify topics warranting an encyclopedia article. In general, notability is an attempt to assess whether the topic has "enduring notability", as evidenced by significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic. Stating that a subject lacks notability as it relates to Wikipedia guidelines is not a statement made to discredit the individual in any way. While an individual may be successful, prominent, or important in their profession and personal endeavors, they may still lack notability, as defined by the community guidelines for editing Wikipedia. Cind.   amuse  (Cindy) 06:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I'm afraid this article fails wikipedia's standards for notability of biographies and thus should be deleted-- Cailil  talk 12:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Lacks reliable independent secondary sources WP:RS to establish notability as required by WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Googling suggests there aren't any.  As Cindamuse explained, notability has a much more technical definition on WP than many new editors expect.  It's not enough that the subject seems notable, i.e., worthy of note.  To be notable on WP, other people with no connection to the subject have to actually take note and they have to do it in reliable sources.  But take heart, WP:An article about yourself is nothing to be proud of.  Msnicki (talk) 20:38, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: No notability has been shown. Notability is not inherited. SL93 (talk) 16:08, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.