Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Vegetarian Association (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 15:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Christian Vegetarian Association
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Hopelessly POV article on "an international, non-denominational Christian ministry that promotes responsible stewardship of God's creation through plant-based eating". Fails WP:GNG. Essentially unsourced at this time. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:19, 31 January 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep. Plenty of coverage found in Google Books and News searches. Any NPOV issues can be fixed by editing.--Michig (talk) 07:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you actually looked at any of those books and news items, or just seen that there are "plenty"? There are actually only a few dozen google news hits, most of which are, as far as I can see, only passing mentions, including many which merely mention in passing that a person referred to is connected to the Christian Vegetarian Association. Likewise most of the books seem, as far as I can see, to either just mention the association or else to be published by them or a related organisation. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have looked at them - thanks for AGFing. Several books mention the organisation, varying from brief mentions to slightly more substantial coverage. These are published by companies such as Greenwood Publishing Group, Continuum, and Westminster John Knox Press, and as far as I can tell are entirely independent of the CVA. It isn't surprising that most news items discuss the organization's chairman - who would you expect journalists to speak to? The coverage of the organization is wide enough to justify an article.--Michig (talk) 19:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note that there are at least two organizations with the name "Christian Vegetarian Association". So far as I can tell, the UK one has no relationship with the US one covered by this article. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. That may mean that the amount of coverage of the one in the article is less than appears to be the case, but I haven't checked. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:47, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan Talk Contributions 00:21, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Promotional article with no evidence of notability. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep per Michig. Sufficient sources found at Google News to establish notability, e.g.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arxiloxos (talk • contribs)
 * Comment Search #[1] returns only the CVA website, which is set up as a branch as part of another website.  The US phone number for the organization is shared by other organizations.  Unscintillating (talk) 06:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Very weak keep - it seems to be clearly notable from all of the g-news hits. It is apparently one in the same with "Ohio Vegetarian Advocates", which has the same address and phone number.  According to the parent company's IRS filing, they only have a budget of around $40K, so we're not dealing with a huge organization here.  But it seems to be notable.  --B (talk) 02:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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