Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Virtual Hymnal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:18, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Christian Virtual Hymnal

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This page describes software invented and sold by the article author. I've checked the internet and there is no evidence that this software is notable -- all links are to pages that sell the software (no independent software or music publisher has picked up the brand; all copies are sold directly by the article author, in some cases through aggregation sites like Amazon). Also, there appears to be no external review or credentialing. In other words, I can find no evidence that this product is notable in the sense that WP requires. Opus33 (talk) 06:24, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Garyrader (talk) It is not true that no independent software or music publisher has picked up the brand. I have edited the Christian Virtual Hymnal page to reflect the fact that Christian Book Distributors asked for a special gold version to publish themselves. They would not publish something like this unless they had closely reviewed it. Similarly for Apple. This program stands in a genre by itself. So I cannot compare it to any pages of similar programs at wikipedia. However I see that at least a quarter of the entries under scorewriters at wikipedia have no valid references/no independent publishers and I wonder why they are allowed to have wikipedia pages. Also the technology underlying the Christian Virtual Hymnal was picked up by independent music publishers: namely Integrity Music and Brentwood-Benson (now owned by Sony) as stated on the MusicEase page. The difference is that I used their content for them instead of the pd content used in the Christian Virtual Hymnal. I am kind of new at this so sorry if the format of this is not correct. Garyrader (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:34, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:34, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LlamaAl (talk) 00:23, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:GNG. sources provided are not totally independently of the subject. LibStar (talk) 00:29, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
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