Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christianity Explored

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. --Golbez 05:49, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Christianity Explored
Linkspam / advertisement for a proselytizing course in evangelical christianity. Fawcett5 00:15, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. &mdash; Phil Welch 00:22, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, spam. Bratsche talk  5 pillars 00:46, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, advertisement. --Sn0wflake 01:50, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, nothing more than a promo Kaibabsquirrel 01:59, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, advertising. -- Infrogmation 02:26, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I think this may be notable enough. There's a book, some notable churches are running it (All Souls Langham Place) and its been around for ten years. Keep. DJ Clayworth 02:59, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * DeleteSpam/non-notable/advertisement/miniscule stub--EatAlbertaBeef 05:08, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Banish, Excommunicate and then Delete  &#08492; astique &#09660; talk 05:16, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. -Mysidia 05:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete advertising. JamesBurns 05:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ad --Xcali 05:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Albatross2147 07:54, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete     11:13, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep verifiable info and NPOV factual description - how is this an ad? Alpha has been huge in UK churches (even televised). Its spin-offs from (of which this is the most popular example) less so. But even then, this course has had thousands of participants, and is being used in hundreds of churches of all denominations, in the UK alone. It is now going global. All Souls Langham Place, where it originated, is perhaps the leading Anglican Conservative Evangelical church in the UK. Plenty less notable articles exist in WP, which is not paper --Doc (?) 13:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The only information to speak of is "It is similar to the Alpha Course" and a link, that is what makes it an ad (Link to a site advertising a product, without substantial content): the page lacks sufficient context to be a stub: other courses similar to Alpha can of course be discussed in Alpha Course. It may be true that Christianity Explored is significant, but the reader would not know and be able to verify that from reading the article and its links. --Mysidia 17:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * If the subject is significant, but the article does not explain this, then the normal approach would be to keep the article until it is expanded. DJ Clayworth 15:22, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Keep - There seems to be a lot of Churches taking part and a book etc. Groovy site too lol but that's not the point. Notable enough in my eyes. Celestianpower 14:05, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete patent nonsense and an ad. ConeyCyclone 17:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, notable enough (check Google). Probably deserves expansion/cleanup. --Idont Havaname 18:30, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Jinkleberries 19:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: Junkleberries is a new user today and voted 'keep' on 37 articles within a 7-minute period. This user also received a vandalism warning today.  Tobycat 20:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Article does not establish notability. Gamaliel 19:58, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable enough religious program with 14,200 hits. Capitalistroadster 20:09, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn. The number of relevant google hits is far fewer than the 14,200 mentioned above.  Lots of those are false positives which is not surprising given the common words used.  When restricted with the words "course" it falls to 7,000...and even some of those are false positives.  Tobycat 20:20, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete advertisement. Postdlf 21:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ad. carmeld1 02:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a significant and influential course in UK churches. The article needs expansion/cleanup, but could be very useful. I'd be willing to put some work into sorting the page out if it is kept. --pode 10:17, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * There are no ifs in this situation. In case you are going to do something, you are going to have to do it now, like so many have in the past. --Sn0wflake 19:31, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .