Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christina Billotte


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Keep (NAC) RMHED (talk) 22:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Christina Billotte

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utterly possibliy non-notable band member. Declined recent CSD for A7. Recently added references seem to be bogus (see discussion on talk page with link to actual text). to dramatically strengthen the notability of this person. Toddst1 (talk) 18:09, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - I hope you don't delete the Christina Billotte page. I am a huge fan of her guitar playing. She is a very influential musician and contributed greatly to the early Riot Grrrl movement. I don't understand why her page would get deleted. She has been interviewed all over the internet and was even cited as being influential by film director Miranda July in a New York Times interview. She is anything but, "utterly non-notable."  She is mentioned in many books about punk rock in Washington DC and the Riot Grrrl movement including "Dance of Days" and "Cinderella's Big Score.  She was interviewed in Guitar Player Magazine and has been listed in lists of the 100 Greatest Women Guitarists of All Time.  Don't delete her page please!! RiotGrrl91 (talk) 01:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - I understand that this AfD has been prompted by a recent edit skirmish on this article by two inexperienced editors, with good faith on both sides, and that the article needs to be better written and sourced. However I do feel that deletion would be a waste of effort, the subject is a sufficiently notable participant in both the riot grrrl and DC punk scenes. I would direct attention to this quote from P.338 of the Dance of Days book - "The energy of Bikini Kill, Bratmobile... ... Christina Billotte,... had dramatically altered the DC punk scene. Indeed RG energy would soon even surface in hardcore..." . Another notable mention would be that she is included in the Venus Zine - an authoritative source on such matters - list of 46 Greatest Female Guitarists of All Time . Lastly, as a member of four notable groups (current Afd's notwithstanding) she passes WP:Music easily. Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I've incorporated the above into a rewrite of the article. Wwwhatsup (talk) 08:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable per above discussion sourced content. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Billotte is a member of multiple notable bands (add Casual Dots to the list ). Duffbeerforme (talk) 16:46, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * DeleteNon-notable band member, information is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucysim (talk • contribs) 00:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Which information is incorrect? Wwwhatsup (talk) 03:48, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That editor has a personal connection to the artist and wants the information removed. Unfortunately, the editor has since been blocked for disruption (removing cited information about the artist) and is unable to answer your question.
 * FWIW, I think we can close this as a resounding keep. Toddst1 (talk) 04:40, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

The reference quoted is from 2004. It doesn't say anything definitive about her current place of residence. And Lucysim seems quite insistent that it is incorrect. I'd personally opine that it should be left out. If an article materializes on Casual Dots, then their dispersal in that period might be material, otherwise not. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep &mdash; this article has seen substantial referencing improvements since the AfD was initiated. I no longer have any doubts about notability here, and echo Toddst1's comment above. &mdash; The   Earwig   @  04:54, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.