Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christina Machamer


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The result was   redirect all to their respective seasons. Plus Petrozza should've won ;) Wizardman  03:32, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Christina Machamer

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winning a reality TV show alone does not qualify as WP:NOTABLE, as other reality-tv-based articles have had their individual winners pages deleted for the same reason. This one should be treated no differently. Being mentioned as the winner on the show page should be enough, unless there becomes a significant reason for the individual to become notable on their own outside of being on a TV show. SpikeJones (talk) 02:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable just because she won a reality show. J I P  | Talk 04:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per the convention of deleting reality show winners. Maybe someone should just make a list. Maybe there is a list already. How about a list of people who appeared on any game shows? (joking).Wikigonish (talk) 05:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * comment - looks like they did: Category:Reality_show_winners.SpikeJones (talk) 03:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason as original entry: appearing on/winning a reality tv show is not WP:NOTABLE by itself; all appropriate info about winner can be included on the show page itself. SpikeJones (talk) 03:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Hell's Kitchen (U.S. season 4) would be more appropriate than deletion, per WP:BLP1E. --Stormie (talk) 10:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable. Tosqueira (talk) 01:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep If you checked the winners of the previous two seasons of Hell's Kitchen ( Heather West and Rahman Harper) both have Wikipedia pages. So there is precedent for this. So either keep this page or delete all three. Joetheduded (talk) 03:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Those were both found to be within the scope of various Wikiprojects (such as the Food and Drink Project). Since all three are professional chefs they are notable and therefore probably fall under the scope of that project.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetheduded (talk • contribs) 05:02, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * comment - practically every restaurant in the country can claim that they have a "professional chef". The key is proving notability, and if these pages' only claim to fame is that they appeared on a reality tv show (albeit a cooking one), precedent has already been made to delete them. SpikeJones (talk) 03:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * comment And yet these have already been found to be notable chefs, within the scope of the Food and Drink project. They are also notable for the restaurants they work and there status as celebrity chefs.  Chefs at world class restaurants (Michelin Star worthy restaurants) have been found notable.Joetheduded (talk) 20:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * comment - their celebrity chef status that you claim is due to their appearance on a reality-tv show. They have not yet proven that they would have achieved the same level of skill/success/noteriety if they hadn't appeared on the show. SpikeJones (talk) 04:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

it without any references.
 * Redirect to Hell's Kitchen (U.S. season 4) Artene50 (talk) 01:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to Hell's Kitchen (U.S. season 4). Lacks sources covering this specific subject to justify stand alone article.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to Hell's Kitchen (U.S. season 4). It might be a search term, so a redirect should exist, but there's no reason to keep it without references. Bart133 (t) (c) 21:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


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