Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christina Magalhães Herrmann


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Wizardman 16:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Christina Magalhães Herrmann

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No independent source proves her notability. She only appears on blogs, youtube and social networking services like Orkut. Tosqueira (talk) 17:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:BAND %% -SYKKO- %% (talk to me) 17:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank in advance for your attention. --Poetrybrazil (talk) 18:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Deletion is a misunderstanding, because her work is relevant and she has important publishments in partnership with Congresso Brasileiro de Poesia, the most important poetry event in Brazilian, and other publishments that we can list soon.
 * It will be great if this is true, and I hope the artist all the sucess in the world. My suggestion in order to help you out in case you want to try to save this article is to find another article on a signifigant artist already written about previously here on wikipedia (Whom christiana has been credited for a signifigant work), then edit Christina's article to include information on her major influence on that artist (this is called Building the web). It wont be a guarantee, but if it can be Verified it will make a great argument against deletion. Another thing that may help is to clean up the references so that they include major publications instead of youtube links. Hope that helps %% -SYKKO- %% (talk to me) 18:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC) (edited this to clarify %% -SYKKO- %% (talk to me) 22:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC))


 * Comment: We thank you SYKKO, all your suggestions are right and already made. There is a provisory page ( click here ) where you also can see many extra reliable references with photos and comments and links. On pt.wiki votation it´s has been discussed in details and many serious wiki contributors have voted to keep the page, including 2 one which changed their votes. --Poetrybrazil (talk) 08:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - has an article in Portugese Wiki: . Just because this is the English wiki and we don't understand Portugese well enough to understand the artist doesn't mean we can't have an article on them.  Wikipedia is not just for English speaking people. Myrrideon (talk) 20:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete - I understand portuguese and she isn't notable. All her sources are from blogs, youtube, Orkut and the like. Her article is also under AfD on pt-wiki: pt:Wikipedia:Páginas para eliminar/Christina Magalhães Herrmann. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tosqueira (talk • contribs) 20:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - No results on Yahoo Shopping (in brazilian portuguese). Also, fails WP:RS. Tosqueira (talk) 20:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No News on Google News: and Folha de São Paulo (one of the most important Brazilian newspapers): . Tosqueira (talk) 20:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions.   —Tosqueira (talk) 21:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BIO. Blogs and Youtube do not establish notability. Hús  ö  nd  22:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article is not notable in Portuguese Wikipedia, and then, it is not notable in English Wikipedia. I understand Portuguese, and all resources are unreliable blogs, geocities and orkut. Zero Kitsune (talk) 01:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per lack of WP:RS Artene50 (talk) 10:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * comment: it has been also discussed on portuguese site. There are many new references (with official websites) where it´s very easy to see that this brazilian artist is recognized not only a poet, as well as organizator of diverses and relevant cultural projects. I hope the friends of wikipedia can see it soon. Many thanks. Poetrybrazil (talk • contribs) 22:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Her notability for literarure and cultural projects in Brazil appears on many reliable sources,  please read new comments, links and the page >>>>> Some publishments, References and Photos - Chris Herrmann - Thanks - Poetrybrazil (talk • contribs) 22:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Please, before all, clean-up this page. There is many unreliable sources and excessive (spam) links. Zero Kitsune (talk) 03:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Zerokitsune, it´s clean now --Poetrybrazil (talk) 05:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: No own work in print, National Library of Brazil collections: 0 hit, WP:CREATIVE/WP:V fails (too): some (unconfirmed) participations in antologies. No literary award, no reflection/avaliation by established literary critic: IMHO a semi-professional 40-hits-writer. --Gunnex (talk) 08:21, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: The comments above are unfair and wants to reforce a first prejudiced vote ignoring facts about relevant cultural engagements, because on the portuguese page the voting to keeping is stronger at the moment and based on reliable sources and many specialized literary references. Two Wikipedists, for example, have their votes changed to keep the page. --Poetrybrazil (talk) 15:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Voting in pt-wiki is often bot-like. They click on "Keep" or "Delete" without presenting fact(s) and/or reason(s). I did. Here too. So dont come with this "unfair" an dont mix the different procedures constructing it as an argument. --Gunnex (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don´t mix anything, because facts are richely presented, in this case. But the most important in moment, all wikipedists that vote till now to keep the biography on the brazilian page are extrem serious contributors of wikipedia. --Poetrybrazil (talk) 19:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please consider new references and photos and votation on pt.wiki Many thanks. - --Poetrybrazil (talk) 13:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Per a suggestion that poetrybrazil made to me I figured I would help anyone out who would like to see how this discussion is going on the Portugese wikipedia : this is the google translation %% -SYKKO- %% (talk to me) 14:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - As Gunnex said "Voting in pt-wiki is often bot-like. They click on "Keep" or "Delete" without presenting fact(s) and/or reason(s) " --João Carvalho (talk) 21:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment On pt-wiki, people voted to keep Articles for deletion/Carlos Botelho: pt:Wikipedia:Páginas para eliminar/Bottelho. There, they don't care about WP:V, WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:COI or WP:AUTOBIO. Tosqueira (talk) 00:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment I have just closed the discussion on pt-wiki and the article was kept. The result was 9x3. Unfortunately, the AfD on wt-wiki are based on the very number of votes and voters seldom justify them. Lechatjaune (talk) 02:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete This article must be deleted because it consists of original research (scarcely) based on primary sources. While nobody writes about this poet, she should not have an article on Wikipedia. Lechatjaune (talk) 02:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - This article should be kept because important and reliable sources were more and more presented. It could be easier proved on pt.wiki and, for this reason, the decision to keep the article was more suitable. --Poetrybrazil (talk) 19:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom --T-rex 23:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.