Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christina Milian's fourth album


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Hammered The Bushranger One ping only 10:33, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Christina Milian's fourth album

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This article is now completely outdated. It was first called Dream in Color then Milian left Myspace Records and re-recorded the album as Elope. Only for her to re-record the album a second time. There is no way of saying how much of this information is actually attributable to the new album. Equally its a never ending crystal ball as there has never been a confirmed release date nor is there one now. An article for something which is so uncofirmed is not WP:V. &mdash;  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  16:03, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Incubate or redirect to Christina Milian – Although the article is indeed outdated, and we know nothing about the status of the album, the article is still well sourced. — Status  &#x7B;talkcontribs  04:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as WP:NALBUMS states "an unreleased album may qualify for an advance article if there is sufficient verifiable and properly referenced information about it". As far as WP:CRYSTAL goes, this album seems "almost certain to take place" and the sourcing indicates it is "notable". ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 13:55, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Change of !vote to Delete in view of Mizery Made's evidence directly below - current information on album seems to have been rendered obsolete and we now have virtually no referenced info relating to what will be published. All we know is that it won't be the stuff we have info about! ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 14:04, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - I hate to say it, as it is a rather detailed and sourced article but I think this quote from the article sums up why the article should be deleted:


 * "In September 2011, Milian gave an update about the status of the album, stating that she's been in the studio and has changed the entire concept of the album and is also changing the album's title, stating: "I'm at a new chapter in my life, so it's untitled as of yet". She also stated that all the material recored for the "Elope" sessions will not be used and that she's working on brand new material."


 * This quote from the article tells us that the album has essentially been started from scratch (with little known about the "new album", not enough for its own article), making a lot of the information pertaining to the "album" from the article rather irrelevant. I'd say salvage what can be salvaged from this article and work it into the artists article (which it looks like a lot of it is already present) showing the progression between her last album and this as of yet titled album. – Mizery Made  ( talk ·  contribs ) 12:07, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin This nomination does not appear to have ever been properly listed in the AfD log, please consider giving it a week from listing before you close it. Monty  845  19:18, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 07:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete The sole "keep" argument selectively quotes the guideline, which reads "In a few special cases, an unreleased album may qualify for an advance article if there is sufficient verifiable and properly referenced information about it—for example, Guns 'n Roses' 2008 album Chinese Democracy had an article as early as 2004. However, this only applies to a very small number of exceptionally high-profile projects—generally, an album should not have an independent article until its title, track listing and release date have all been publicly confirmed by the artist or their record label." (emphasis added) There's nothing about this particular work-in-progress that elevates it to the status of being one of those few special cases.&mdash;Kww(talk) 11:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete no lasting notability. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:16, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
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