Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christmas Angel (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Tamara Gee discography. (non-admin closure) Randykitty (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Christmas Angel (album)

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Non-notable album given away free with purchase. No sources attest to its notability, no indication it charted anywhere. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 19:59, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:04, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 00:54, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep or Merge Nominator appears to misunderstand notability. It has nothing to do with being famous, popular or charting.  There are enough available refs to prove notability.  Probably should be merged into a list of her albums. VMS Mosaic (talk) 03:34, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * An article cannot be both kept and merged, something you don't seem to understand. Please specify which exact independent reliable sources sources meet the standards of WP:RS and WP:GNG? Jerry Pepsi (talk) 13:29, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? You do know the meaning of the word 'or'?  If I knew Polish, the RS refs would be easy to find, but I don't. But as I already said, the album image, track listing, etc. should probably be merged into an album list or into her main article. VMS Mosaic (talk) 06:18, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * There is already a discography in her article and a separate discography article so there is no need to merge anything, and an image of an album cover in an article not specifically about that album would be deleted as non-fair use under image guidelines. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 02:47, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Only reference I see on that page is the artist's own website. Which is fairly clearly not enough.  At the moment I have to say Delete pending further information - but as it's implied that album significantly outsold her other one, it should be possible to find some chart for the time period (probably the Polish charts) where it makes the top 40.  I, alas, don't read Polish... Neonchameleon (talk) 18:33, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that is the main problem here. The powers that be have scared off not only too many English speaking editors, but also far too many non-primary-English speaking editors. I eventually see any article on a non-English foreign subject being deleted from the English Wikipedia. An extremely bad outcome IMHO. VMS Mosaic (talk) 06:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL. The "powers that be"? Who would that be exactly? Wikiproject:Poland has close to 100 active or semi-active members, many of whom note their fluency in Polish. Your assumption that there simply must be sources out there in Polish which you could easily locate if you spoke Polish has no bearing on the discussion. Facts and reliable sources, please, not conjecture and conspiracy theories. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 02:45, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Laugh as much as you want, but it is neither a conjecture or conspiracy theory that the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia is in significant decline. I have put up with a huge amount of total BS, but unlike many who are driven off by Wikilawyers, I am too stubborn (maybe stupid I suppose) to quit. LMAO, the number of editors listed on a Project page is almost completely meaningless. The one project I am active on has a list of editors, but maybe four (counting me) of them actively edit pages related to the project. VMS Mosaic (talk) 06:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to her discography...perhaps reliable secondary sources exist in Polish, but I'm struggling to find any in English at least. If Polish reliable secondary sources are found, perhaps a reconsideration for it to be kept, but, I suggest merge. SarahStierch (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Merge - merge to Tamara Gee discography. Ajh1492 (talk) 11:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.