Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christophe Guye Galerie


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:10, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Christophe Guye Galerie

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Article has a strongly promotional background (see history), and a COI editor/creator. The topic itself does not seem to be notable per our GNG: there are mentions, of course, since they exist and exhibit things and have clients, but I see no discussion of the topic. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Comment- that's the problem- Japanese photographers of the postwar generation are internationally important. Modern Japanese photographers as represented by the gallery are (probably) notable. The gallery itself- probably not notable at the moment. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Notability is not inherited and while artist, represented by the gallery may be and are notable, unless there is no a verifiable sources about the gallery itself, it's not notable. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 10:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. What Arthistorian1977 said [ahem: preferably after a little proofreading]. (As for what Xanthomelanoussprog said, a lot of postwar Japanese photographers are "notable" in the Wikipedia sense, and a rather smaller number are notable as the word is generally used. The same is of course true for US photographers, etc etc.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd go with delete. I have the feeling that Christophe Guye's probably more notable than his gallery (former ad man with a passion for Japanese photography, who's got several snappers on exclusive contract and claims to have an "intense" relationship with the artists.) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Just out of interest, Xanthomelanoussprog, could you name some/all of these exclusively contracted Japanese snappers? -- Hoary (talk) 22:53, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * From the website these are the photogs his gallery represents: Jun Ahn, Miles Aldridge, Roger Ballen, Stéphane Couturier, Roger Eberhard, Stephen Gill, Bill Henson, Ina Jang, Rinko Kawauchi, Nick Knight, Ola Kolehmainen, Kosuke, Seba Kurtis, Brigitte Lustenberger, Yoshinori Mizutani, Lina Scheynius, Lieko Shiga, Jules Spinatsch, Will Steacy, Risaku Suzuki, Kazuna Taguchi, Dominique Teufen, Albert Watson and Michael Wolf. There is the caveat that Guye is the one claiming exclusive contracts- I assume he hasn't got an exclusive contract with Nick Knight! Okay, so I've checked Yoshinori Mizutani, and he's not exclusive to Guye. I also checked out a local as being the most likely to be contracted- Brigitte Lustenberger is a Zurich-based photographer who's exhibited in the last few years at a number of different galleries. She is presently crowdfunding her photobooks, which suggests that there's no 'exclusive' contract. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:34, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * "Welches Verhältnis gehen Sie mit den Künstlern ein?" (Zoran Bozanic) "Auf der persönlichen Seite ein sehr intensives, aus rechtlicher Sicht hauptsächlich Exklusivverträge." (Guye)
 * Thanks. It's an odd list. Among them, Jun Ahn, Rinko Kawauchi, Kosuke, Yoshinori Mizutani, Lieko Shiga, Risaku Suzuki, Kazuna Taguchi either are Japanese or sound more or less Japanese. Some I haven't heard of. (Kosuke is one of these. It's a given name, and rather a common one. It's as if a photographer were billed as "David".) Kawauchi and Shiga are the best known. If either is exclusive to this gallery, then the fact goes unmentioned on her own website; also, it would be surprising given the number of shows she has recently had (or has scheduled from now) elsewhere. -- Hoary (talk) 08:13, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Well I had a look, and can't find a surname for Kosuke, so we might as well call him 'Dave'. What is it with the Zurich art scene? (see Galerie Gmurzynska) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 11:01, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Kosuke Okahara, for one, merits his article. I dunno about the galleries, but they seem big on "G" alliteration. -- Hoary (talk) 08:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * This Kosuke was born in 1986, and specialises in photomontage (the Warning series). A couple were sold at the Hong Kong branch of Sotheby's in 2015 in what seems to have been a selling exhibition. For some reason the results are difficult or impossible to discover; peeking behind the paywall at some financial rag's report on the sale gives a range of prices between 800 USD/600 GBP and 260,000 USD. Presumably Kosuke '86 is down the lower end of the scale. The Gmurnskaya article had its share of COI editing; there's a murky tale involving an archive of Suprematist art and Mrs Gmurzynska, which isn't to everybody's taste :) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:56, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


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