Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Ciccone (2nd nomination)


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The result was redirect to Madonna (entertainer). (non-admin closure) SST  flyer  07:48, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Christopher Ciccone
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I believe this article is a classic case violation of Notability cannot be inherited, Christopher Ciccone started career as backup dancer/choreographer for his much more famous sister Madonna. Nowhere in his career did he have any independent notability other than the fact that he's the brother of Madonna. He only released one book and thus his only claim to fame is his book (ironically) about his sister. WP:SINGLEEVENT applies here again strongly according to which "When an individual is significant for his or her role in a single event, it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both." It might be worth noting here that based on this I would rather have an article on the book Life with My Sister Madonna and delete this article, it simple does not pass WP:NOTABILITY. — I B  [ Poke  ] 13:27, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Life with My Sister Madonna; given how he was criticized for inaccuracy within the book but not really noted for much else, people could search for the book's author and land there. Snuggums (talk / edits) 15:24, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Umm, Life with My Sister Madonna is also a redirect currently. — I B  [ Poke  ] 16:04, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * In that case, redirect to Madonna (entertainer) as a family member and for his work with her Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:39, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete He is the brother of Madonna, and had minor support roles to her performance. Nothing to make him notable and not enough coverage either.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:08, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and then Redirect as there's still nothing at all actually convincing for his own article, there's nothing convincing from his family connections. SwisterTwister   talk  19:43, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Madonna (entertainer) - This is a good case of "notability is not inherited". While the subject did write a book, it was based on their association with Madonna. Even a recent tabloid type article about the subject's marriage refers to them as "Madonna's brother". If the subject is not notable on their own right, it can be simply redirected to the person they are associated with. Since it is a valid search term, I would prefer a redirect. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Other AfDs have had similar results: See Articles for deletion/Zachary Bogue. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:05, 2 July 2016 (UTC)


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