Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Folan


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The result was Delete --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 13:59, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Christopher Folan

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Delete: non-notable. No derivation of notability solely by dint of victimhood. Quis separabit? 01:42, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable WP:VICTIM.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  02:41, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:57, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

This incident was a major event in Galway City at the height of the Irish War of Independence in 1921. It generated outrage in Galway, and received much attention at the time in both regional and national newspapers, and has been included in several history books about the period. The killing of 18 year old Folan created similar outrage to the killing of 18 year old Kevin Barry in Dublin. Michael Collins the Chief of Staff of the Irish Army ordered an investigation into the death. It was an infamous episode carried out by the Black and Tans and was one of a number of incidents which proved to LLoyd George and Winston Churchill that elements of their own forces were out of control and that a Military solution to the conflict was not possible. This occurred in May 1921, the truce between the Irish led by Michael Collins and the British was agreed in July 1921. Thanks. • Galwaybuck (talk) 17:57, 02 April2016 (UTC)
 * @• Galwaybuck -- please spare us the history lessons and partisan rhetoric. What is notable in Galway is no more universally notable than what is notable in Brooklyn, New York or Helena, Montana or Quintana Roo, Mexico or Ulaan Bator, Mongolia, which is to say usually not enough to merit a standalone article on Wikipedia or in any encyclopaedia, although it all depends on the facts and the circumstances. The unfortunate Mr Folan doesn't qualify. Quis separabit?  01:49, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Apologies sorry if I sounded like I was giving a history lecture or trying to be partisan, I was just trying to explain why I thought this was a notable incident, and to put the incident in a historical context. I was trying to say that the incident attracted national and international attention as evidenced by its inclusions in national newspapers and it was brought up in the House of Commons, and a street was named after him. . Thanks • Galwaybuck (talk) 17:35, 03 April2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - per WP:CRIME and WP:1E, as well as WP:GNG. This person does not appear to be a notable victim that sparked significant national attention, nor did it directly lead to a major historical event or change. I also don't believe that this person meets WP:GNG, as I'm not finding a significant amount of reliable sources providing in-depth coverage of this person.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   11:34, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 21:24, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Seems slightly notable, maybe it could be put in a list, but probably not much more. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge elsewhere as per WP:VICTIM, I also cannot find many quality sources to pass WP:GNG. I cannot really see the individual significance of this sad incident, even though the killings as a whole apparently were historically significant. GABHello! 22:20, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as simply still nothing to suggest a independently notable article. SwisterTwister   talk  05:17, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


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