Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Foster (arsonist)


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The result was   delete.  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Christopher Foster (arsonist)

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Subject of this biography is known only for one event, which does not satisfy notability criteria of WP:BIO. Crusio (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Non-notable double murder-suicide. Clarityfiend (talk) 16:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable both for asset-stripping and for arson. Plenty of references in mainstream newspapers. --Eastmain (talk) 16:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, no problem with WP:V. But next week everybody will have forgotten about this one event. --Crusio (talk) 16:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Just because he murdered someone committing suicide doesn't make hime mirt his own article nor does it have a significant impact outside family.  –BuickCenturyDriver 17:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per nomination that would include about 40% of the wikipedias articles.--Judo112 (talk) 17:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. --Crusio ([[User

talk:Crusio|talk]]) 17:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC) KEEP: It is important to keep this article.  Not because of Christopher Foster but to inform other women of the fate of Jill & Kirstie Foster & how it came about.  I suspect there was some domestic abuse occurring over a long period before the murders - due to the psychological profile of the man & it is important that women who fear their male relatives to gain an understanding of profiles & signs that matters could become very serious.  I also hear he killed a dog senlessly previously, a warning sign to the breakdown of anti-killing taboos. The incident is unusual because men usually kill their families out of jealousy (usually the wife having an affair or family break-up) - this was due I believe to quite complex psychological forces at play.  It remains unproven to date that Foster killed his daughter or himself - so please at least wait until the results of the forensic tests are published & the inquest is finished. I know you want logic, but there is something unusual about this case - even if it only turns out to be a deeply psychotic father. ScoobyDoo63 08 September 2008
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 * Delete per policy WP:NOT and essay WP:NOTNEWS, where the argument is made "News organizations have different criteria for their content than the criteria used by encyclopedias. A violent crime, sensationalized event or accidental death may be notable enough to reporters and news editors to justify coverage in the news, but not be of encyclopedic importance." No evidence of any lasting or widespread impact beyond the unfortunate victims. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a crime catalog of every murder and arson in the history of the world. Edison (talk) 19:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:BLP1E pretty much by definition. Arakunem Talk 20:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per Edison--CPacker (talk) 07:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per others. Although notable at the present time, he will have been forgotten by the majority of the population within a few weeks. This is just another tragic case of a guy who lost it and not really encyclopedic. TheRetroGuy (talk) 19:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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 * Comment Unfortunately, it is not at all uncommon that someone kills his (or her) family because of problems other than jealousy. As far as I can see, the only uncommon thing here is that he also burned his house down. It's still a case of WP:BLP1E. --Crusio (talk) 20:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


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