Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher St. Lawrence


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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:06, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Christopher St. Lawrence

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Non-notable local politician. Fails WP:POLITICIAN, WP:PERPETRATOR, and WP:1EVENT. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. I could not find anything to make the subject notable prior to the arrest and trial. red dogsix (talk) 20:07, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:48, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:48, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - The subject was not arrested initially. Documents were seized by the FBI first. This man is(was) a significant political figure in a county just north of New York City and his crimes impact an incredible number of people. He is also very much involved in the deterioration of the East Ramapo school district, which has garnered national attention.


 * Not only is this subject significant, there are numerous non significant local politicians with wikipedia pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnR1948 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - Significance does not equal Wikipedia based notability - being called significant is a subjective analysis. The subject fails WP:POLITICIAN, WP:PERPETRATOR, and WP:1EVENT.  Concerning your statement, " there are numerous non significant local politicians with wikipedia pages," those other pages have no bearing on this discussion.  If those pages do not meet Wikipedia criteria, feel free to nominate them for deletion.   red dogsix (talk) 22:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. There's no evidence being shown that he would pass WP:NPOL for the position he held — 16 years in office and all you can show for anything prior to the criminal charge is one primary source and one glancing namecheck of his existence in an article that's fundamentally about something else? And if you can't show that he was already notable enough for an article before the FBI came a-knockin', then the arrest itself just makes him a WP:BLP1E rather than a person we should be maintaining an article about. I'd be willing to reconsider this if the sourcing and substance could be beefed way up on his actual work in politics — but criminal charges are not in and of themselves a reason for us to maintain an article about a local politician whose preexisting notability hasn't been properly demonstrated otherwise. Bearcat (talk) 06:23, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete total failure of notability guidelines for politicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:04, 3 September 2017 (UTC)


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