Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher W. Cabrera


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The result was delete. Article is found to be in violation of WP:PROMO, and is deemed unfit for inclusion in this encyclopedia. Articles created for soley promotional purposes are directly in conflict with, and against the spirit of, our mission. (Note: This close was done in consideration of, and accordance with, the following policies: WP:DEL4, WP:DEL8, WP:DEL14, WP:PROMO, WP:N, WP:IAR.) &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 10:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Christopher W. Cabrera

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Promotional articles on non notable executive except for his role as CEO of Xactly Corporation, where he is already mentioned. The two articles were written in parallel by a seo, so it is reasonable to assume undeclared paid editing--which ought to be a grounds for deletion independent of anything else, for it always produces promotional articles by its very nature.

There's an award for his company, which is probably notable. Otherwise all there is is a "national honoress" from his fraternity and an alumni award from his business school, neither of which are notable or indenpendent awards.

One of his books, Game the Plan one book, a/c WorldCat, is in only 3 libraries. It was published by a subsidiary of Greenleaf Book Group, which publishes books that the author pays for. The other is entitled Xactly Sales Compensation for Dummies -- in other words, a book about how to use his own company's products.  DGG ( talk ) 05:32, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * keep this is WP:PROMO, no doubt, which makes me want to delete it. So does the fact that a Proquest news search turns up an enormous number of promotional press releases.  However, there is this: Christopher Cabrera of Xactly: Learning to Stay Above the Drama recent, in-depth interview in the New York Times, with biographical detail from which a proper bio could be sourced.  And This: Q&A: Xactly founder Christopher W. Cabrera, on keeping employees happy, Nakaso, Dan. Oakland Tribune [Oakland, Calif] 28 Mar 2014 [  http://search.proquest.com/news/docview/1511036661/fulltext/60705D34628F4953PQ/1?accountid=10226] long Q & A in a major metropolitan daily, plus the company he founded is blue-linked, so I don't see how we justify delete.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:57, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * we're deleting for Promotionalism, which is a perfectly good reason, regardless of notability. If a non-promotional article can be written, it should be written separately, Deletion of their work is the most effective way to discourage promotional  editors.  DGG ( talk ) 05:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * User:DGG, it this a formal policy, to delete articles written as promotion, "regardless of notability"? Can you point me to it?  I am wondering all sorts of things, like how to separate FANCRUFT from self-promotion, or does the policy includes only paid editing?12:26, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:26, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTADVERTISING. All our content rules are but expansions and elaborations of WP:NOT, which is the fundamental policy upon which the notability guidelines are based. Probably over a million attempts at articles have been deleted based on that clause of NOT alone.  DGG ( talk ) 18:39, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah. We differ. I continue to find it difficult to justify deletion of a guy who gets a couple of dozen hits on wsj.com (Typical xample, Why Human Resources Software Start-Ups Are On Cloud 9,By Scott Denne, Dec. 6, 2011: ''"“When I founded Xactly six-and-a-half years ago, a lot of the big software companies weren’t taking SaaS seriously. Now they’re all tracking Xactly and all the SaaS companies,” said Christopher Cabrera, founder and chief executive of Xactly, which manages compensation for salespeople. “It’s exciting to finally see all these revolutionary things finally coming to fruition.”)  I think it is useful to be able to look up and link to dramatically successful entrepreneurs on Wikipeida, so I would keep it and cut out the fluff and unsourced PROMO.  As per WP:PRESERVE.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete -- a promotional article on a marginally notable (if at all) subject. Most coverage seems to come from the company. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as I have also been involved with this, nothing at all actually suggestive of his own notability and substance. SwisterTwister   talk  07:14, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Except, of course, long profiles in the New York Times, Oakland Tribune, and an enormous amount of news coverage stretching over more than a decade.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Just checked Forbes, this: and this .  I can see that perspectives on how to deal with PROMO can vary, but "marginally notable," and "nothing at all actually suggestive of his own notability and substance," simply fail to describe reality of copious sourcing in major media.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:28, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The Forbes articles linked read rather like puff pieces and (IMO) do not amount to "significant coverage". More indicative of a capable PR person setting up an interview with a willing reporter. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:33, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Here's another major daily with a long Q & A, San Jose Mercury News, the major Silicon Valley daily: . PR guys pitch everything, but when major dailies run articles, that's coverage that is significant  coverage.  I have not run searches on big engines, just quick googles. there's probably more out there, but 3 long pieces about him in major daily papers really does pass ANYBIO.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The questions in Mercury News include "Q: Why do sales-oriented companies need a cloud-based system for sales people?" and "Q: What's your favorite trophy in your office?". This hardly qualifies as "significant coverage". K.e.coffman (talk) 21:22, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it also says: "Bachelor's degree in business administration, University of Southern California" and tells where he got his MBA  & it says, "Married to wife, Marla, for 23 years; they have a daughter and son."  & that he lives in the "Almaden area of San Jose" & that he "taught himself to paint with acrylics 12 years ago after he was inspired by a painting of a building he saw in a gallery window in Carmel."   The point is that there are profiles and biographical interviews in major daily papers from which a bio can be sourced.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete a non-notable businessman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:06, 1 August 2016 (UTC)


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