Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christy Johnson


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Christy Johnson

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An American actress and vocalist who sings for a non-notable band and appeared in a non-notable film has minor roles in film. This article has already been deleted once (CSD A7). That article was created by User:SuperpowerTheMovie but this one has been created by User:Dreamkillerfan. Same photo, different layout, same lack of significant coverage in reliable, third-party publications and none found in the Google searches on the talk page. Does not meet the criteria for an article in the encyclopedia per WP:Notability, WP:ENTERTAINER or WP:MUSIC. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Mortuary (film) appears to be notable. I would say that although there is evidence of promotion work relating to Johnson right now (see Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents), each iteration is getting closer to that expected of yr average WP article. This version of the article is drastically superior to the version speedied a few hours ago. I'd prefer to assume good faith here despite a rocky start. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 23:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing this out, Chris. I have amended my nomination a little though the basic tenet of it - that she is not notable - still stands. If significant coverage in reliable, third party sources can be found over the next few days then I will be happy to withdraw my nomination. Kind regards. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   —Steven J. Anderson (talk) 00:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication in the article that it passes any aspect of WP:BIO or WP:ENTERTAINER. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 00:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:BIO, WP:ENTERTAINER, and WP:MUSIC. Completely unnotable actress. This is not an advertising service. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No notable roles, singer in a red linked band, no reliable sources. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 04:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - it doesn't appear that any of the roles noted herein are actually notable. This looks like an attempt at increasing her profile, to me. Tony Fox (arf!) 04:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - no cverage in reliable sources, and her roles as listed on IMDB and in the article do not distinguish her -- Whpq (talk) 11:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 20:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Don't wish to pile on here, but fails WP:BIO and WP:V completely. Assuming her page is even correct (as it has no references backing it up), almost every movie she's worked on is either redlinked or she played an uncredited/minor role. The photo uploaded for her also hints at an advertising ploy. Wikipedia isn't the place to gain exposure. MattWT (talk) 23:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Given the the tremendous number of people who consider themselves actors/singers/entertainers/etc., the "notability bar" is necessarily kind of high. In looking over the subject's roles, I see mostly either un-notable productions, or un-credited or un-named character roles in notable productions. The music videos she's been part of are also un-notable. Given the publicity-style photo, I agree with the above comments that the page is not much more than a promotion effort. Respectfully, Agricola44 (talk) 19:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'd argue that the notability bar is actually quite low per WP:NOTPAPER. But in this casem the subject cannot even meet the very low bar for notability.  If a couple of articles about her in newspapers could be dug up, I'd switch to a keep. -- Whpq (talk) 20:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   — Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The article asserts that she is an Olympic Gold Medalist. If I can find a cite for that one factoid alone, this entire discussion will be rendered moot... for THAT is notabilty per any guideline or policy. Now to look....  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Found this, which makes many assertions of notabilty, chief among which are "performed in Carnegie Hall in New York City, was an American Idol On-Line winner, Miss Junior Greensboro 2003, state championship in track and field, State Games Gold Medalist, National Quad Speed Skating Gold Medalist, record setter for the 1000 Meter, and National Karate Junior Olympics Gold Medalist." Forget about her acting and singing career. If one or two or more of these other assertions can be sourced... she's notable.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If she is, it sure was kept quite. I did a search for her, NC, and Olympics and found nothing. The only Christy Johnson I found related to the Olympics was from Oregon and it looked liked she qualified then couldn't go. Another one I did find was on a team at the 2007 USATF Jr. Olympic National Championship's, but they were fourth place and the age would seem to be wrong to be her. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * She's not an Olympian. The "Junior Olympics" are a US-only event run by the AAU, not an international competition.  (I'm surprised they get away with using the "Olympics" name since the IOC has been vigilant about snuffing out unauthorized use.)  As for "performed at Carnegie Hall", maybe, but as what?  With a choir, perhaps?  There are several auditoria and many events held at Carnegie Hall, including school graduations, private recitals etc., so "performed at Carnegie Hall" is probably rendered in such a vague way to cover one of these.  None of the other stuff confers notability either.  Thousands of kids win at "state games" every year.  "Miss Jr. Greensboro" is a local beauty contest.  Everything here is very much below the bar. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 07:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree Ed... and you'll note i have not voted keep or delete yet. I do not think her meager acting career is notable. Considering what little she has done? Background roles? Generic characters? Nahhhhh. Not notable. But the article makes other assertions that if proven might better prove notability. But I have been unable to source them... and even had Collectonion helping with the search. The closest I got was that she was one of the nominess for "Best Supporting Actress" in a local theater group in North Caarolina. I am willing to AGF that she was a teenage record holder... but without sourcing, the claim is empty. You can guess which way I am leaning.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


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