Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chronological List of Alabama Baptist Churches and Circuit Preachers in and around Clay County, Alabama 1838-1946


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was    Delete. Eluchil404 (talk) 04:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Chronological List of Alabama Baptist Churches and Circuit Preachers in and around Clay County, Alabama 1838-1946

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Nonnotable and fundamentally trivial topic. This is a topic that is inherently only of limited local interest. The published source cited does not indicate notability, as it is a locally published document of which only 1000 copies were printed. This is a recreation of a couple of articles that were previously nominated for deletion at Articles for deletion/List of Baptist Churches in Alabama and Articles for deletion/Clay County Baptist Preachers 1838-1946. The first of these led to a total rewrite of the article (the current version of List of Baptist Churches in Alabama has no relation to the article that was nominated for deletion) and the second led to deletion of the article. The creator of the current page is asserting (on the new page and on his talk page) that because the AfD debate for List of Baptist Churches in Alabama led to a "keep" result, this new page was kept and is notable. That is an erroneous interpretation of the previous AfD, and anyway notability is not inherited from the other list (the fact that a list of some Baptist churches in Alabama was found to be a notable topic does not make all Baptist churches in Alabama notable). This should be eligible to speedy deletion as a recreation of a page that was deleted through AfD, but for the technicality that one of the prior pages was retained. Orlady (talk) 17:23, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. --Orlady (talk) 17:28, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, no assertion of notability for the items on the list. Shouldn't be speedy, though -- the previous AfD closed early as author-requests-deletion.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:43, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out, Sarek. I should have reviewed the history more closely. However, that AfD would have closed as "Delete" if the author hadn't requested deletion first. --Orlady (talk) 17:26, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:IINFO as Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. --Anthem 19:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per Sarek and Anthem. Regarding the prior AfDs, Articles for deletion/List of Baptist Churches in Alabama is completely irrelevant to this article, because List of Baptist Churches in Alabama bore no resemblance to this article at any time. The same churches may at one point have been listed in both, but List of Baptist Churches in Alabama didn't include the list of ministers. The other AfD, Articles for deletion/Clay County Baptist Preachers 1838-1946, is relevant, because at one point Clay County Baptist Preachers 1838-1946 contained a church-by-church chronological listing of ministers, and then in the midst of the AfD, the article creator announced that he had posted the wrong list and replaced it with an alphabetical listing of ministers with years indicated but without their churches indicated. This current version of the article appears to be similar to both of those prior lists combined, one followed by the other. the first list (the second list has since been removed). However, this list does not appear to satisfy the guidelines at WP:LISTPEOPLE. None of the ministers on this list appear to be individually notable enough for their own articles, and the only source used to establish the fact that these individuals were ministers at these churches is an obscure publication. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * In fact, at the time it was nominated for deletion, List of Baptist Churches in Alabama did have some resemblance to the current article. --Orlady (talk) 17:26, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It mentioned the same churches in the same order, but it didn't list any of the ministers. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * THIS WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED for deletion and the concensus was KEEP I posted that I was looking for a proper title and location and reposting the correct article as as above, it was wrongly labelled. It is already KEEP not Delete. WayneRay (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No, that was a different article. You can see here the way List of Baptist churches in Alabama looked when you last edited it. Notice that there was not one individual minister mentioned on that page. Thus, it bears no resemblance to Chronological List of Alabama Baptist Churches and Circuit Preachers in and around Clay County, Alabama 1838-1946, which is what we are discussing now. The article we are discussing now is basically the same as the one you originally posted under the title Clay County Baptist Preachers 1838-1946, first with the church-by-church chronological listing. (That was later replaced by an alphabetical listing of ministers, which at one point appeared in this article but has since been removed.) That one was deleted at your request because you said you would "put the other one back up under the correct title". The fact that List of Baptist churches in Alabama happened to be kept (after being extensively rewritten) does not prove anything about whether Chronological List of Alabama Baptist Churches and Circuit Preachers in and around Clay County, Alabama 1838-1946 should be kept also. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
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