Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chuckle club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete, fails the WP:NN test. &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  13:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Chuckle club

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Non-notable comedy club. Possibly spamvertisement. Prod tag removed by creator. Delete DMG413 02:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Appears to be thinly veiled advertisement to promote the club. Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ 03:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Mr.Z-man. dcandeto 04:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete no assertion of notability. Also, no references listed in the article. -- Cy ru s      An dir on   12:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above ffm   ✎ talk   13:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - its actually the London School of Economics "Chuckle Club", and some of Britains favourite comedians started out there on their early gig's - like Eddy Izzard and Al Murray, let alone the two already named on the present article. It needs a decent re-write from what is a poor article/adver-blog to something more appropriate, but a few thousand hits on Google can't be wrong. Rgds, - Trident13 16:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete it might be in the LSE but it's still just a minor club night in a bar. A few thousand hits on Google can be wrong"; "sticking pencils up my bum" gets 202,000 Ghits. -  irides centi   (talk to me!)  17:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Google search for "sticking pencils up my bum" with quotes round, only gets 2 Ghits. Anthony Appleyard 07:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I think some of you are judging the quality of the article instead of the article's worthiness. I wrote the article and I agree, it's rubbish. I had sometime to kill and I was suprised it didn't already have an article so I did a quick one for it.

My arguement for worthiness hinges on these points: 1. Many of the big names in British Comedy started out doing this night. Would you argue the venue or night where major music band played when they first started or club where a major sports persons started should be deleted. 2. The night has already got recongition for a non-minor event. It has several thousand hits in Google. It is very different for an organisation with a specific name to get several thousand hits in Google than a random expression as "sticking pencil up my bum." Also, it got an anniversary article in the Metro, a very widely read paper in London. It is not easy to get an article in the Metro. 3. Chuckle Club is 21 years old. This is not a proof of worth by itself but it does give an indication that it may have some significance if could continue for so long.

Also to set the record straight; I'm not connected to the night in anyway (expect for attending it a few times) and the article was not an advertisement. Pete bot 21:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - this is not the comedy equivalent of "the venue or night where major music band played when they first started or club where a major sports persons started". This is a club night at a venue, not the place itself. Since we don't have a separate entry even for Manumission, the biggest (appr 10000 per night) club night in the world which has notable acts on every night, that kind of WP:WAX argument doesn't apply here. This article may be appropriate for a section in an article on the venue, but only if the venue itself can be shown N for other reasons; as it stands, it would be the equivalent of an article on the school team David Beckham played for before he joined Man U. -  irides centi   (talk to me!)  21:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Comment I accept what the above comment is saying but Chuckle Club is separate to an individual venue. It has always been located in the west end of London but the venue has changed over time. So Chuckle Club is a seperate entity from the venue (this case the Tuns). Pete bot 22:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep: Clearly one link away from notable comedian figures (compare with band members and bands on notability), and, if it has moved, clearly a separate entity from the venues where it is held. cheers, Casliber | talk  |  contribs 23:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * PS: Agree it definitely needs a cleanup. I feel there should have been some discussion before an AfD tag was placed on it.cheers, Casliber | talk  |  contribs 00:01, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Redirect to appropriate article (downgrade to list item or article section). To this end, I've added a line item to List of London venues, to which the article could be redirected with the Template:R to list item appendage. I was actually looking for and did not see an article such as Comedy in London or Entertainment in London that would anchor the respective categories Category:Comedy in London and Category:Entertainment in London.  I don't think that outright deletion is in order as the topic is sufficiently notable for inclusion in another article, despite not being sufficient for an article of its own. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.