Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Church of Saint Francis Xavier, Singapore


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The result was   keep. Withdawn (non-admin closure) Mkdw talk 19:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Church of Saint Francis Xavier, Singapore

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Text book case of WP:BRANCH where the organization is notable but the local church building is not inherently notable. No WP:SIGCOV to suggest otherwise. Mkdw talk 06:15, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep Another AfD in this group with sufficient Google Book coverage. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I found three books. In two of them, the church is mentioned only once and not even the subject of the sentence. The last is unverifiable but the church is not the subject of the book. Mkdw talk 20:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - I challenge the nominator to prove beyond reasonable doubt that this entry and others that have been nominated for deletion are not "inherently notable" enough to be on Wikipedia. There are many sources abound and the real question is this, has any research been done to warrant such a nomination? Pretty Pig (talk) 05:03, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I accept. Nothing in inherently notable in Wikipedia. Mkdw talk 20:00, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears in just about every tourist guidebook as a notable building, and also in e.g. History of the Church and Churches in Malaysia and Singapore (1511-2000) by Fr. P. Decroix. The seminary from which the church grew appears in numerous books on the history of Singapore, e.g. The French in Singapore: An Illustrated History by Pilon and Weiler. -- 202.124.74.66 (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You seem very well adversed in Wikipedia for your edit history. I would like to remind you that Wikipedia is not a guide. Mkdw talk 20:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong | comment _ 23:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Clearly notable in Singapore on the evidence provided. Contrary to what is being asserted by the nominator, mentions in guide books, histories of the settlement and elsewhere are evidence of notability for the purposes of Wikipedia. --AJHingston (talk) 01:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep The standard is more than mention, but significant coverage, but I think it's met. The book absolutely does not have to be entirely or even primarily about the subject. Cf. WP:N and WP:RS.  DGG ( talk ) 02:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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