Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Church of the Nativity of Saint John the Baptist (Smila, Ukraine)


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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 01:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Church of the Nativity of Saint John the Baptist (Smila, Ukraine)

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Modern church (2008) which does not seem to have anything going for it in terms of historical or cultural significance, or any kind of solid coverage indicative of such. Not seeing a basis for an article here.

(where do we sort buildings / churches? Feel free to move this to a better AfD category)

Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. North America1000 22:08, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. North America1000 22:08, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and doesn't meet WP:NBUILDING.  Onel 5969  TT me 22:51, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG/WP:NCHURCH. My searches in English and Ukrainian do not find significant coverage in reliable sources. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:20, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Non-trivial independent coverage of the church organization, the building, and the monument in its ensemble:
 * Священик з Івано-Франківщини вже 7 років будує єдиний у Смілі храм УАПЦ (фото) (Priest from Ivano-Frankivsk region has been building his own UAOC church 7 years [photos]) 2015-07-13
 * СМІЛЯНИ ВШАНУВАЛИ ЖЕРТВ ПОЛІТИЧНИХ РЕПРЕСІЙ БІЛЯ УНІКАЛЬНОГО ПАМ’ЯТНОГО ЗНАКА (Smila residents honoured victims of political repressions at a unique commemorative marker) 2018-05-22
 * Епіфаній освятив новий храм у Смілі ([Metropolitan of Kyiv and All Ukraine] Epifanii christened a new church in Smila) 2019-12-24
 * —Michael Z. 14:02, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Second ref is an unadorned press release. Third ref is a WP:RUNOFTHEMILL public notice - "a new public building has been opened". Both of these are very much trivial coverage and do nothing for notability. - First ref has more potential as a feature on the origin of the church. So, one good source so far by my count. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:18, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair enough the second and third are not earth-shattering. But they appear to be legitimate local news, produced by real writers and studios. Second one is a video news item at an event. Smila has a church that was built by its priest over many years. An unusual feat of vernacular architecture these days. Is that encyclopedic? —Michael Z. 02:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd say yes, IF it receives the requisite amount of coverage. Don't think a single item of usable length would normally be considered sufficient. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep as it does have some significant reliable sources coverage but the main reason is that the remains of a notable holy martyr Vladimir Bogoyavlensky have been interred here which gives the church historic significance in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:46, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 01:49, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes GNG as it does have some significant reliable sources as per above. Articuno appears (talk) 09:18, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Two short local pieces and a press release are not significant coverage. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 13:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This source here is a full article with significant coverage imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ashley  yoursmile!  04:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete As per Onel5969. MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 22:43, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


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