Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ci Durian


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) — Yashtalk stalk 10:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Ci Durian

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River that does not qualify under WP:GEOLAND or WP:GNG. No non-trivial coverage in reliable independent sources, Existence ≠ Notability. Previous WP:PROD was removed, am following this with a full deletion nomination. KDS4444 (talk) 07:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: searches for sources might benefit from this river's local name: . --HyperGaruda (talk) 16:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Alternative spellings:
 * --HyperGaruda (talk) 16:54, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I moved the article to Ci Durian to avoid confusion with other Durian Rivers. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * --HyperGaruda (talk) 16:54, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I moved the article to Ci Durian to avoid confusion with other Durian Rivers. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 *  Redirect Keep to List of rivers of Indonesia. Lacks coverage needed for a separate article. Better sources found, I agree with Keep. Gab4gab (talk) 17:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. See This source which talks about Ci Durian on several pages. The map shows it running north from the highlands to the sea around Tanara. Or this source which also shows the river and says it was the western boundary of the Dutch Banten province, separating it from the Banten Sultanate. Other sources say it once had a large delta, although the river now is canalized, entering the sea at -6.02434°N, 106.4115°W. JICA's Ci Ujung - Ci Durian Integrated Water Resources Study (1992) discussed plans to dam the river. A sizable river with political and economic importance.  Aymatth2 (talk) 04:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - per Aymatth2 sources. The article shouldn't have been created with so little info, but it does seem to be notable...Jokulhlaup (talk) 11:27, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment reason for the initial prod was there was nothing in the very small stub to verify where it was (central, west or east Java should be a qualifier...) and in some potential source areas, there was nothing about this river JarrahTree 11:53, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That is understandable. I found very little on "Durian River" Java, or on "Sungai Durian" Java, the Malay form. But Ci Durian started turning up sources like this one on Banten. Apparently it is also known as Chi Kandi, Tji Kande, Tji Durian, Tjidoerian, Tjidurian. The map shows it is about 60 km long with a drop of about 1800 m, and one of the larger rivers in the region. I will expand the stub. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:53, 24 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. -- do ncr  am  18:06, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2017 January 27.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 15:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, a name like Durian (after the fruit) is too common to make searching easy, and the remnants of colonial spelling don't help, but the Ci/Tji Durian/Doerian is quite a major river and certainly worth an article, whatever people have now done to its delta. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:26, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Aymatth2's sources and subsequent article expansion. --TimK MSI (talk) 16:10, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - from Aymatth2's excellent work - why, even speedy closure and keep it is so good now compared to the original JarrahTree 01:58, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: Right now, the AfD template is on two pages: Durian River and Ci Durian, and both are listed at the top of this page. I don't know if refactoring is warranted, but this is confusing. — Gorthian (talk) 09:22, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep after major expansion and sourcing. Pinging KDS4444, maybe he or she will change his or her opinion. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 10:26, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ❌ KDS4444 (talk) 10:30, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


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