Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ciaran Shaman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. &mdash; Scientizzle 17:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Ciaran Shaman

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The issue is notability: although the originator is the subject, the article is not written in a promotional way. I gave it a speedy A7 tag; he responded with, and we had a conversation about notability on the article's talk page, as a result of which I decided to bring it here for more time and more views. The only sources in the article are the subject's web-site and MySpace; Google produces some gallery sites showing his work, but I don't know that world well enough to know if they can be counted as independent sources.JohnCD (talk) 22:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, what is your reason? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It got lost somehow in the nomination process: I've added it above. JohnCD (talk) 22:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, seems to fail WP:RS. I couldn't find anything verifiable, either. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I can scan and send you newspaper cuttings from an exhibition where I was the advertised artist-in-residence as well as magazine covers. I can see your point of view with the web presence as a lot of my work has been published 'underground' and is fairly inaccessable - even I do not have copies of everything that's been independently published, sometimes without my permission. My work with David Icke can be found here: http://www.davidickewasright.com/ I also have produced many one-off commissions for noteable musicians but I try not to advertise this fact for privacy reasons. I understand if this is not yet enough to warrant a wikipedia entry, though undoubtedly one will have to be created in the near future as I gather together more verifiable sources. It just seems a shame to delete it, though as I say I would understand if that's the case. Warm regards. --Merlinamagus (talk) 00:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC) Hello. Is this discussion? No-one has answered my question above as to submitting sources of notability. I have to say I'm a pretty intuitive person and I can tell the direction of the flow so no worries about deleting the entry. Many thanks for searching for notable articles. Warm regards, Ciaran. --Merlinamagus (talk) 23:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * delete I've searched around on-line and can't find anything satisfying WP:RS to satisfy the the notability criterion of extensive coverage in reliable secondary sources. If some appear here, please let me know & I'll modify my opinion. Pete.Hurd (talk) 04:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable person. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 10:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - no reliable sources to establish notability -- Whpq (talk) 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


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