Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cideng, Gambir


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:21, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Cideng, Gambir

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This stub is basically a mirror of the Wp:id stub http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cideng,_Gambir,_Jakarta_Pusat - it has no evident WP:N, WP:RS or WP:CITE to justify a stub. The higher level article about Gambir should contain the information. SatuSuro 06:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep All populated places are notable.  Lugnuts  (talk) 08:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Automatic notability only applies to census-designated places. The Indonesian census generally goes down to the district (kecamatan) level; an administrative village (lurah) is below that and should not automatically pass WP:N Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:54, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a verifiable populated place, which means by long-standing AfD precedent it's considered notable. Contrary to what Crisco said, the precedent doesn't distinguish between census-designated places and other settlements; in fact, many of the AfDs which led to the precedent were about US communities that weren't CDPs. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 07:06, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - a request for centralising this multiple conversation at Gambir, Gambir - please SatuSuro 08:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep there are several villages named Cideng near Gambir according to the GEOnet Names Server; no doubt this one is among them and although it would be nice to know which, the absence of precise coordinates is no reason to delete. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gambir, Jakarta - were this an independent community, it would be a WP:SNOW keep per WP:OUTCOMES. However, it is not - it's a subdivision/neighbourhood of Jakarta, and, as such, should be redirected to the city it is actually part of. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:43, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
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