Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cimmeria (poem)


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The result was redirect to Robert E. Howard bibliography (poems A-H). (non-admin closure) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Cimmeria (poem)

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This obscure poem does not seem to meet WP:NBOOK and such. In my BEFORE I can't find a review or analysis of it; there are few mentions of it here and there, but nothing in-depth. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Robert E. Howard bibliography (poems A–H) It is a nice poem, but I cannot find anything usable. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 21:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep/merge There are critical accounts of Howard's poetry such as The Poetry of Robert E. Howard and so this might be worked up into a more general account of his poetry. Otherwise, there are obvious alternatives such as merger with Cimmeria (Conan). Andrew🐉(talk) 10:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Robert E. Howard bibliography (poems A-H), no evidence that this poem passes GNG. Devonian Wombat (talk) 05:12, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge / redirect as is standard practice for shorter poems and essays. Article does not meet the general notability guideline without substantial coverage in third party sources, but certainly has enough basic coverage to give it a quick description in a larger list. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:03, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This poem is not "obscure", as the nominator baselessly claims, but has been translated into at least seven languages and collected/anthologized dozens of times. (Not that "obscurity" has anything much to do with wiki-notability, except to editors who believe that Wikipedia's primary purpose is to document widely promoted popular culture.) There is an extensive body of pre-Internet commentary on Howard and his work, and this poem was often discussed (if not formally cited/discretely reviewed in broader contexts. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.  Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 16:03, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect Neither having been translated nor inclusion in anthologies is notability; Howard wrote a whole lot of poems, many of which have been discussed in some form, but we do not need individual articles on them. This lacks significant coverage and does not need a separate page. Reywas92Talk 18:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Robert E. Howard bibliography (poems A-H), where it is already included. As there is not a single bit of reliably sourced information here, a merger is not needed, and would not be appropriate.  Rorshacma (talk) 20:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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