Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Citizens' Political Movement


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Modussiccandi (talk) 07:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Citizens' Political Movement

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A totally unknown political party, it has never participated in elections and is not mentioned in any relevant source. In practice, this party has limited itself to existing and nothing more. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 20:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics,  and Italy. Shellwood (talk) 20:39, 12 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. The subject is clearly encyclopedic and deserves a to be part of Wikipedia. The Citizens' Political Movement, through its founder and leader Fernando Rossi, was represented in the Italian Senate from 2007 to 2008 and was at times crucial for the survival of Romano Prodi's second government (2006–2008). In the 2008 general election, in alliance with other minor parties, it obtained 0.3% countrywide, despite being present only in a few constituencies. To be clear, that it is more than what several American third parties with articles in Wikipedia have gathered throughout their life. Every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, even though also established and traditional encyclopedias have also small entries, the greatness of Wikipedia is precisely having articles for little-known subjects. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. --Checco (talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * First of all, 0.3% of the vote in the 2008 general election (a poor result in itself) was obtained from a list that was supported also by this party, not by the party itself, so this is surely not a valid motivation for keeping the page. Regarding his representation in the Senate, there are no particular constraints in the regulation of that assembly to declare membership of a party in the mixed group: Fernando Rossi, after leaving the Party of Italian Communists, had limited himself to declaring his belonging to this new party. Therefore, any votes of confidence in the Prodi government must primarily be attributed to him and not to the party. Since it is a substantially personal party that has never participated in elections, it could be directly merged with the article on Fernando Rossi. --Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. Definitely does not meet notability criteria, since it has no "significant coverage" in RS. From a google books search, it appears in a handful of publications, but always in passing and never analyzed in detail. Therefore it can become a sentence in the page of its founder Fernando Rossi. Yakme (talk) 15:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. A very obscure and unknown party. The 0.3% share of votes obtained in 2008 was thanks to a much broader coalition and it didn't result in anyone elected. It totally lacks notability. P1221 (talk) 10:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments

 * Further comment. I believe that the party, having had a senator and having participated in a general election, should be kept, but, in order not to lose the article's history, what about a merger through redirect with Party of Italian Communists or, alternatively, Federation of Liberal Democrats? --Checco (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The Citizens' Political Movement has never participated in a general election. This party is not a relevant topic for the Party of Italian Communists, nor for the Federation of Liberal Democrats (also proposed for deletion). I think the only page it could be merged to is Fernando Rossi's one (as an alternative to deletion).--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 20:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If it has to be a merger (not my choice!), we could indeed merge this article and Federation of Liberal Democrats into For the Common Good, the joint list including also the two parties now proposed for deletion which participated in the 2008 Italian general election. --Checco (talk) 07:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)


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